Byerly to Bback

[dcyellowjacket]

And yet, it does. Step out from your mom's basement and watch. Would you be happier if I said "a lot harder" on the math?

Wow, sorry I stepped on your lawn, grandpa. No, "a lot harder" wouldn't cut it. The value of a model is its predictive and conceptual power, not the simplicity of the math. Curve fitting is not understanding.

 

[IEEEWreck]

Wow, sorry I stepped on your lawn, grandpa. No, "a lot harder" wouldn't cut it. The value of a model is its predictive and conceptual power, not the simplicity of the math. Curve fitting is not understanding.

Also: Tractable math isn't a reason to pick a model? Better go tell Physics and Economics, among other things.

 

[wuzjrbuzz]

 

[Longestday]

TB is different than any other QB. I feel TB runs as hard as JN, runs the option like TW, is not as fast as JT, but is the best passer of the bunch (see end of Duke game). JT feels like the second best passer, runs the options very quick, is slippery as snot, but does not have the power run game. I really don't have a lot of information on JM except he seems like a hard runner from the spring game.

 

[takethepoints]

Also: Tractable math isn't a reason to pick a model? Better go tell Physics and Economics, among other things.

I always like to use Einstein's Razor on this: make all models as simple as possible, but not simpler.

The physicists are all in with that, but they have a strong experimental tradition and oddles of data to look at to keep their models in line. Econ and the other social sciences haven't had that, though that's sure changing. Result = tractable economic models that are very poor (in some cases, very, very, very poor) representations of empirical reality.

See, that's why I like Tech football sites. You don't see epistemology coming up too often among other football fans.

 

[AE 87]

Wow, sorry I stepped on your lawn, grandpa. No, "a lot harder" wouldn't cut it. The value of a model is its predictive and conceptual power, not the simplicity of the math. Curve fitting is not understanding.

LoL. For a moment, assume that I'm not an idiot and reconsider.

 

[Boomergump]

Regardless Nesbitt has actually won big games, beat uga, won an acc championship, and taken footballs away from defenders. To say a back up qb with limited snaps is better than that is just a guess/stretch imo

Well, I wasn't comparing resumes, obviously. That wouldn't be wise. I just think TB is better. Is it a guess? Well, it is impossible to compare them head to head. I will say this, however, without reservation: if I had to choose between JN and TB to QB the 2015 Jackets, I would take TB. That is just me. I think he would give us the better chance to win. Additionally, I would take TW ahead of JN too FWIW. I like Josh. He was a warrior. However, the only QB in the CPJ era I would put him in front of would be Vad.

 

[chrsw003]

Well, I wasn't comparing resumes, obviously. That wouldn't be wise. I just think TB is better. Is it a guess? Well, it is impossible to compare them head to head. I will say this, however, without reservation: if I had to choose between JN and TB to QB the 2015 Jackets, I would take TB. That is just me. I think he would give us the better chance to win. Additionally, I would take TW ahead of JN too FWIW. I like Josh. He was a warrior. However, the only QB in the CPJ era I would put him in front of would be Vad.

Haha idk id take Nesbitt all day. 2nd best qb behind justin.

 

[potatohead]

Wow, sorry I stepped on your lawn, grandpa. No, "a lot harder" wouldn't cut it. The value of a model is its predictive and conceptual power, not the simplicity of the math. Curve fitting is not understanding.

Really, it's not worth it. God forbid you actual counter her point, as she will just move the target.

"Step out of your moms basement", she's a winner isn't she?

 

[JazzyD95]

Well, I wasn't comparing resumes, obviously. That wouldn't be wise. I just think TB is better. Is it a guess? Well, it is impossible to compare them head to head. I will say this, however, without reservation: if I had to choose between JN and TB to QB the 2015 Jackets, I would take TB. That is just me. I think he would give us the better chance to win. Additionally, I would take TW ahead of JN too FWIW. I like Josh. He was a warrior. However, the only QB in the CPJ era I would put him in front of would be Vad.

i usually agree with your opinion, but were wayyyyyyy far apart on this one. JfN was and is the toughest son of a ***** ive seen play QB for us. that means something to me. i feel like people dont remember how he would put the team on his back and just will his team to win in crunch time. did he have accuracy problems? sure. did he make the perfect read every time? nah. but he was a gladiator at the QB position, and fought for life every play. would only put him behind J-Smoove. and even then i still miss the bad *** motherf***** approach Josh brought to the position.
(end of rant, back to discussion)

 

[dressedcheeseside]

It's funny how the backup QB is the most famous player on a team where the starting QB went 11-3 last year with an orange bowl win, but only at GT I guess

Even funnier is how comments expressing confidence in our backup qb unsettles others.

 

[dressedcheeseside]

i usually agree with your opinion, but were wayyyyyyy far apart on this one. JfN was and is the toughest son of a ***** ive seen play QB for us. that means something to me. i feel like people dont remember how he would put the team on his back and just will his team to win in crunch time. did he have accuracy problems? sure. did he make the perfect read every time? nah. but he was a gladiator at the QB position, and fought for life every play. would only put him behind J-Smoove. and even then i still miss the bad *** motherf***** approach Josh brought to the position.
(end of rant, back to discussion)

I'm not so sure that Byerly wouldn't have done the same. Nesbitt was was a tougher runner, but not by much. Byerly brings a much more accurate arm to the table as well as a better ability to read defenses. We'll never know because you can't go back in time and insert one player for another. I don't know the outcome for sure, but it is far from a sure bet that Nesbitt wins the job.

 

[quadf]

I'm not so sure that Byerly wouldn't have done the same. Nesbitt was was a tougher runner, but not by much. Byerly brings a much more accurate arm to the table as well as a better ability to read defenses. We'll never know because you can't go back in time and insert one player for another. I don't know the outcome for sure, but it is far from a sure bet that Nesbitt wins the job.

I'm not sure Byerly has gotten enough snaps to really get a good comparison to multi-year starter. That's not to say you're wrong. It feels similar to when Vad looked strong when he was splitting snaps with Tevin; it wasn't until he was the starter that we really saw how good or bad he was. That's not to discredit Tim, as he has looked quite strong when he's played, but the sample set seems rather limited.

 

[IronJacket7]

I like the idea of Byerly getting on the field. If BB is the only way then I say give it a go. But make sure MJ is a valid backup first.

 

[Skeptic]

i usually agree with your opinion, but were wayyyyyyy far apart on this one. JfN was and is the toughest son of a ***** ive seen play QB for us. that means something to me. i feel like people dont remember how he would put the team on his back and just will his team to win in crunch time. did he have accuracy problems? sure. did he make the perfect read every time? nah. but he was a gladiator at the QB position, and fought for life every play. would only put him behind J-Smoove. and even then i still miss the bad *** motherf***** approach Josh brought to the position.
(end of rant, back to discussion)

That you've ever seen? Ever, or just those you saw in person?

 

[Skeptic]

I'm not so sure that Byerly wouldn't have done the same. Nesbitt was was a tougher runner, but not by much. Byerly brings a much more accurate arm to the table as well as a better ability to read defenses. We'll never know because you can't go back in time and insert one player for another. I don't know the outcome for sure, but it is far from a sure bet that Nesbitt wins the job.

Nesbitt would have been a better B back, anyway. Wrong skill set for QB, right for B. Both he and TW were lucky to land at GT and Johnson's offense.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

TB is different than any other QB. I feel TB runs as hard as JN, runs the option like TW, is not as fast as JT, but is the best passer of the bunch (see end of Duke game). JT feels like the second best passer, runs the options very quick, is slippery as snot, but does not have the power run game. I really don't have a lot of information on JM except he seems like a hard runner from the spring game.

Byerly reminds me of a heavier running version of Jabo Shaw.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

Einstein's Razor

Did Einstein steel this from "Occam's razor?"

 

[dressedcheeseside]

Byerly reminds me of a heavier running version of Jabo Shaw.

Byerly is a better passer.

 

[DvilleJacket]

Nesbitt beat FSU twice and UGAG once. Pretty good player in my mind.