Your best guess....What say you about Miami game?

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bwelbo said:
I spent some time watching last year's Miami game again. They spend a lot of time on defense in what I'm going to call the "Taco Bell Formation."

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Its kind of a 3 man front, with 2 guys on the outside to help guard the perimeter. And then 2-3 more men in the middle. A lot of times it forms the shape of a bell with a 3-2 tight-2-1 formation (not so much here in this picture though - this one is more like a smurf hat). Very frequently they fire the MLB into the gap at full speed to disrupt the mesh...successfully. But unlike some other teams like Duke IIRC who changed defensive formations a lot, Miami stuck with this general formation the vast majority of the time from what I saw.

I was also surprised at how many times I saw corners staying 8-10 yards off the line like in this picture (we never passed):
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To me that screams quick hit to Jalen Camp (I believe that's who it is in the slot) on the go.

Miami in this formation seemed to consistently do many things well:
1) Disrupt the mesh by firing a MLB into the gap.
2) Containing the perimeter by putting a guy on either side of the line.
3) Fighting to stay 'upstream' of the blocks on whichever side was playside.

A couple things I think we run that will help us this year with Miami compared to last year is our Belly Option and Midline Option. I don't think we ran those much at all with JT5, but we can/do with TaQuon Marshall. I'm not a flex bone cryptologist, but I think those are a couple of plays that help defeat this type of alignment. I sure would also like to see some more quick passing hits.

One final thing thats hard to check for, is if play action AB wheels and things like that would be open. They would seem to be, but that's a little hard to read definitively for me.
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So if they run this formation I see two plays that will work every time. Yep smoke pass to the Wide out, and B-back dive in either gap off the nose guard. 4-5 yards per play. And last year....TOP GT 40 min Miami 20. And 133 B-back yards.
 
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Jean-Baptiste Rochambeau said:
Tropical Depression TD 16 in Central America may become Hurricane Nate on a track for Tallahassee. What happens if FSU-Miami is canceled?
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My guess is that the game will not be played. Miami would then only face FSU this year in the ACC Championship Game.
Which ain't going to happen because it'll be Georgia Tech versus Clemson. :)

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Jean-Baptiste Rochambeau said:
Tropical Depression TD 16 in Central America may become Hurricane Nate on a track for Tallahassee. What happens if FSU-Miami is canceled?
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Nah, the storm will be in the middle of the gulf Saturday afternoon. And not that big (comparatively). For a 3:30 start, they might move it back a bit. https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/atlantic/2017/tropical-depression-sixteen

Then again, everyone is getting puckered up about global warming enhanced hurricanes this year.
 
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CPJ: I think we'll have everyone back on the offensive line ready to go. JJ Green was out there.

I think with a healthy offensive line we have a great shot at taking this game. Hopefully we can keep them healthy and make a run.
 
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One positive and one negative-

Positive+ : Last year Miami had 2 weeks off, and played 3 cupcakes to start the season before the game. They had about as good of a setup as you can get to play us under. Thanks to a 'hurricane' (yuk yuk), that set up got spoiled this year.

Negative- : Rewatched the Miami/Duke game, and my opinion didn't change. Dang, Rosier looked better than I thought he would. And Duke did get to him. One of the TDs was a perfect pass to where only his receiver Berrios could get it at the back of the endzone, and he delivered it while taking a shot. He also hit Richards on the sideline fade perfectly a couple of times. The secondary is a strength of our defense, and we'll need them to step up for us.
 

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BCJacket said:
My guesses and reasoning:

1) 8PM on ABC (There's not many games of interest that Saturday. Clemson plays 'Cuse on Friday. Only current top 25 Matchup is Utah/USCal, which will probably get the late night west coast primetime slot. Duke/F$U could get the primetime ACC slot instead, if both win this weekend. If Miami beats F$U, I think ESPN will manipulate GT in at #25 to make Miami/Tech a Top 25 Matchup.)

2) Settle at Da U -7.5 after Miami/F$U is a close/ugly win for Miami. (F$U has had a tough start, but they're a talented team. Bama, Wake and NCSU both (underrated) is a tough schedule plus two lost weeks and losing their QB1. Miami has only played Bethune-Cookman, Toledo (Which was a lot closer than the final score.) and a way overrated Fluke).

3) Marshall, Devine and Mitchell. (Confident Marshall will be ready, last week CPJ said he was close. Devine came back in after his injury for the 4th and 1 play and then went out for good once the game was in hand. Don't think his is serious. Based on little information, my wild guess is Mitchell is ready to go in 2 weeks and Lee isn't. Saw somewhere Lee's injury was an ankle. Which is always tricky to get back from.)

4) I think it's 50/50. (Turnover margin winner is game winner. Can't afford to lose fumbles in this one.)

5) Miami. (Our monkey with Richt is at home. If memory serves, we're 2-2 against him at his place, 0-5 at Bobby Dodd. And I don't think CPJ has ever beaten Miami in Miami. (?))
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Something in your arithmetic is not right, Richt was at UGAG for 15 years and UM for 1. That equals playing them 16 times.
 
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grandpa jacket said:
Something in your arithmetic is not right, Richt was at UGAG for 15 years and UM for 1. That equals playing them 16 times.
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I think he was trying to focus only on CPJ years. Under CPJ we were 2 (2008, 2014) and 2 (2010, 2012) vs Richt at Georgie. We were 0-5 vs Richt at Bobby Dodd (georgie 2009, 2011, 2013, 2015, and Miami 2016).
 
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Not that I'm superstitious, but the last time our game with da U was played on an alternate postponed date due to a hurricane, we beat them, which set off an undefeated string of victory against the canes in the orange bowl. ;) Could history repeat itself?
 
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Vespid said:
Not that I'm superstitious, but the last time our game with da U was played on an alternate postponed date due to a hurricane, we beat them, which set off an undefeated string of victory against the canes in the orange bowl. ;) Could history repeat itself?
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After FSU/UM game:

I think we get slated for 3:30 game
Line will prob be -10 to -14 UM
I give us about a 25% chance to win the game, especially due to our previous history of ALWAYS losing Bigly at UM under CPJ

Previous Scores at UM under CPJ:

2015: UM 38 GT 21
2013: UM 45 GT 30
2011: UM 24 GT 7
2009: UM 33 GT 17

Based on our history the score will probably be in the neighborhood of:

2017: UM 35 GT 20

Let's face it, we crap the bed when we head down to Miami, whatever the excuses may be (raining, Jet was missing, etc). Until we actually make a dramatic turnaround and Win a game down there I will continue to predict we lose in a Yuge way.....hope this is the year we turn it around.
 
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Just another opportunity to win a game in the ACC. By comparison, Iowa State had a record of 6 wins and 74 losses with 2 ties against Oklahoma all time. Last time they beat OU in Norman was 1990.

It's not like GT hasn't ever beaten da U in Miami. Certainly GT is stepping up the competition, but so is the da U who might have won one they didn't deserve last week just Tennessee did in week one.
 
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Just another opportunity to win a game in the ACC. By comparison, Iowa State had a record of 6 wins and 74 losses with 2 ties against Oklahoma all time. Last time they beat OU in Norman was 1990.

It's not like GT hasn't ever beaten da U in Miami. Certainly GT is stepping up the competition, but so is the da U who might have won one they didn't deserve last week just Tennessee did in week one.
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Fwiw, I think he was saying that we haven't beaten d'oh U when we're asking an OL to run block 70 snaps in 90+% humidity (although I'm sure that if we could blame the losses on a youtube video, he'd buy that).
 
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