can't a freshman play a few games without losing his redshirt? we have to try somebody else than gibsonJust going to share what I know and have been told.
Sims situation: Sims played hurt, was thought to be able to play through it but would have some limitations such as running the ball. Sims tried to come back into the game on his own, trainer walked up to him and told him he was done for the night, sims slammed his helmet when he was told he was done. Sims tried coming back in again after that but the staff took his helmet and pads away.
Gibson: He can’t run this offense, he’s a passing QB that’s a negative runner which in result gives you what you saw tonight. He can not run the spread option at all. Gibson was another bad evaluation by Collins, you could clearly see he wasn’t a spread offense QB.
Taisun Phommachanh: He sucks. He was once again another bad evaluation by Collins. I’ve seen him in practice (pre Collins firing) and he’s just straight up bad. He was the 2nd horrible evaluation at QB by Collins in 1 recruiting class which you can’t afford at all. I do know he had a pretty serious injury while at Clemson and hasn’t played for a while.
Zach Pyron: Staff wants to maintain his redshirt and knows he can’t be thrown into the fire with our OL situation. He is now QB3.
QB depth chart from what I’ve been told:
Sims
Gibson
Pyron
Phommachanh
There’s so many things I could say about the QB room and how it’s gone down over the years.
you get 4 games. would be surprised and very confused if he doesn’t see the field (if sims injury keeps him out multiple weekscan't a freshman play a few games without losing his redshirt? we have to try somebody else than gibson
It was more than just Sims going out though. We missed an XP, had a punt blocked, gave up big plays on D. It looked a lot more like the team from the first few games than the one from the last two.i will say it is a bit unfair to compare the team from duke and pitt vs tonight. gibson is frankly the worst qb we’ve seen at tech in decades and was a massive drop down from sims. any other position and it’s not THAT big of a talking point but a qb injury is a different ball of wax
we aren’t as good as some may have thought. i think a large portion of key’s hype was basically built on “at least he isn’t collins”. if sims is hurt long term and key can pull together something the rest of the season i’ll be ok with him but that seems like a tall task
hard for me to hold any negativity to anyone outside of the offense and mainly gibson. we didn’t score a touchdown at home and had about 20 yards of offense in the second half.It was more than just Sims going out though. We missed an XP, had a punt blocked, gave up big plays on D. It looked a lot more like the team from the first few games than the one from the last two.
All of these things happened again last night. So I'm not seeing the progress...we regressed and absolutely $hit the bed again on national TV in a home game.The product on the field now is infinitely better than it was a month ago. The only maddening thing tonight was the QB play. A month ago, we were incompetent at almost everything. Punt blocks. Missed kicks. Bizarre decisions from the sidelines. Heck, we got our butts kicked in our own press conferences because the Coach couldn't provide a cogent answer to any question beyond "What's your name?"
with gibson was the absolute worst we have ever seen the offense at least in my life time as a tech fan. i can excuse poor performances against top 10 teams like clemson, uga etc. but that was an awful uva team that has been run over by anyone with a pulse and we were completely ineffectiveFor those of you saying this is the worst game you’ve ever seen Tech play, I guess you just started watching a couple of weeks ago?
I’ve seen much, much worse just this year and I can’t even count the worse games over the last 35 years with every coach we’ve had in that timeframe.
I’m disappointed, but wow let’s not go crazy with the hyperbole.
This. I'm so depressed thinking we get to have another rebuild period of three to four years of meh.I'm sure if we hire another Head Coach most will be happy, but I really didn't want to go and start a rebuilding all over again. I just feel like we are in a bad position and any good coach will look and this is not the job they want so we will have to settle for someone.
the path to being competitive is nowhere near as far as it was under collins. we aren’t where we should be but we have the athletes to at least make a bowl game with the right coachingAt the start of the season, I was like most thought Long was the one who would save us, and thought Thacker was a joke. But now I see it the other way. I really think CGC hurt us in more ways than we thought, would not let the coaches coach like they wanted and was a poor recruiter and could not evaluate players to sign.
I was also high on Key to be the next head coach, but unlike most of you I still have not given up on him. It's not his fault we don't have a backup. And, yes, our OL is bad, but they are all very young. If we can finish and get to a bowl game, I would still look at Key. Problem now is the QB an ankle is a bad injury to get will be a problem the rest of the season. And now we know we have no backup QB.
I'm sure if we hire another Head Coach most will be happy, but I really didn't want to go and start a rebuilding all over again. I just feel like we are in a bad position and any good coach will look and this is not the job they want so we will have to settle for someone.
im not sure that would have made one iota of a difference other than showing us that gibson didn’t have anything a few weeks earlier. his issues are not things game time would improveWell, this game was perhaps inevitable. For three years posters on here have argued that our backup QBs needed game experience and should not have to be thrown into a game without having felt real game-speed conditions. Instead we’ve spent three years going with one QB letting them work out all their mistakes and work for entire seasons on coordinating with the OL, getting timing down with receivers, and getting in sync with running backs. I’m not saying this was the wrong decision, just saying a choice was made that absolutely depended on the number one guy not getting hurt.