Dave Patenaude's Offense

WreckinGT

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What is more likely? That Brent Key was good enough to coach Nick Saban's O-line but not ours? Or that the transition was more difficult than you think? Also, maybe cut out the name calling. I think you need to sit a few plays out.
Key deserves plenty of blame for last years debacle as well. It’s not all on Coach Pat. Maybe not having all 5 star players with 5 star backups was a difficult transition for him.
 

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It's almost like some people forget what Johnson's offense looked like with a QB that completely didn't fit what we needed. Thank god Calvin Booker wasn't our best QB in 2008.
 

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Now we are talking! If we are going to be 75+ play team we must sustain drives and keep the chains moving. Temple regressed in this area from yr 1 to 2 under CDP from ~43% to 37%. Maybe this is contributed to @ibeattetris stat of more drives.
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So based on these numbers this is how i will grade CDP

An ideal season for us under CDP and bowl gm appearance will be

60%+ pass comp %
240avg+ passing yds/gm
150yds avg rushing
40% 3rd down conversion
Under 12ints
30ppg

I was going to make an entire thread on CDP yr 1 to 2 jump but i guess we can keep this going

Offense thru 4 game

Comp: 55%
Pass yds: 239yds
Rush yds: 214yds
3rd down 44%

@CuseJacket if you want a new thread on this, please do so
 

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I was going to make an entire thread on CDP yr 1 to 2 jump but i guess we can keep this going

Offense thru 4 game

Comp: 55%
Pass yds: 239yds
Rush yds: 214yds
3rd down 44%

@CuseJacket if you want a new thread on this, please do so
In comparison, Louisville is at 58% completion percentage for the season and some similar offensive numbers.

ACC completion percentages:
1. Trevor Lawrence: 72%
2. Sam Howell: 68%
...
10. James Blackmon: 58%

(not in the top 10, but there’s reason to think Sims can move into the 60% territory)

Passing yards:
1. Kenny Pickett: 1389
2. Chase Brice (Duke): 1263
...
6. Jeff Sims: 944

Passer rating:
1. Trevor Lawrence: 183.4
2. Sam Howell: 163
3. Devin Leary (NCST): 152
...
9. D’Eriq King (Miami): 133.5
10. Jeff Sims: 121.5

Yards per punt:
1. Pressley Harvin: 48yds/punt. (OK, not an offensive stat, but I love seeing us #1 in something)

Rushing stats—no individual players in top 10, but we have multiple great backs.

In yards/game, we’re #5 in the ACC. In Points/game, we’re #12:

PassRushTotaFirsPenaTurn
RkSchoolGPtsCmpAttPctYdsTDAttYdsAvgTDPlaysYdsAvgPassRushPenTotNo.YdsFumIntTot
1North Carolina337.719.328.069.0261.72.039.0245.06.33.067.0506.77.612.311.32.326.09.791.30.31.01.3
2Clemson442.325.036.568.5310.02.538.5185.54.82.875.0495.56.614.08.82.024.86.560.00.50.30.8
3Virginia Tech342.711.723.749.3193.01.746.3299.36.53.770.0492.37.07.714.71.724.04.028.70.70.31.0
4Notre Dame340.316.025.762.3204.01.043.0270.76.34.068.7474.76.98.714.01.023.33.330.70.70.31.0
5Georgia Tech425.817.331.554.8239.31.542.5213.85.02.374.0453.06.110.011.50.822.39.872.01.02.03.0
6Wake Forest340.319.331.761.1268.01.042.7161.73.83.374.3429.75.811.012.02.325.33.020.30.30.00.3
7Miami (FL)436.820.033.360.2229.51.836.0196.55.52.569.3426.06.29.88.33.521.59.383.50.80.81.5
8Louisville429.018.331.058.9246.52.341.3177.84.31.572.3424.35.910.89.31.321.35.550.01.51.32.8
9Virginia327.328.751.355.8285.02.734.7139.04.01.086.0424.04.915.37.32.725.34.343.70.72.33.0
10Duke521.621.239.453.8263.01.039.4153.43.91.278.8416.45.313.07.61.422.04.242.62.01.83.8
11Pitt531.622.838.060.0284.21.639.2125.43.22.277.2409.65.311.68.02.622.27.263.40.40.61.0
12North Carolina State434.318.831.859.1240.02.340.8162.54.02.072.5402.55.610.89.02.322.09.077.50.01.01.0
13Florida State422.520.535.557.7224.31.041.0169.04.11.876.5393.35.110.811.01.523.39.381.80.51.52.0
14Boston College425.824.838.065.1295.32.032.360.31.91.070.3355.55.113.55.82.021.37.366.80.30.50.8
15Syracuse419.314.028.848.7176.51.333.377.52.30.562.0254.04.17.04.31.312.56.360.80.30.81.0

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In comparison, Louisville is at 58% completion percentage for the season and some similar offensive numbers.

ACC completion percentages:
1. Trevor Lawrence: 72%
2. Sam Howell: 68%
...
10. James Blackmon: 58%

(not in the top 10, but there’s reason to think Sims can move into the 60% territory)

Passing yards:
1. Kenny Pickett: 1389
2. Chase Brice (Duke): 1263
...
6. Jeff Sims: 944

Passer rating:
1. Trevor Lawrence: 183.4
2. Sam Howell: 163
3. Devin Leary (NCST): 152
...
9. D’Eriq King (Miami): 133.5
10. Jeff Sims: 121.5

Yards per punt:
1. Pressley Harvin: 48yds/punt. (OK, not an offensive stat, but I love seeing us #1 in something)

Rushing stats—no individual players in top 10, but we have multiple great backs.

In yards/game, we’re #5 in the ACC. In Points/game, we’re #12:

PassRushTotaFirsPenaTurn
RkSchoolGPtsCmpAttPctYdsTDAttYdsAvgTDPlaysYdsAvgPassRushPenTotNo.YdsFumIntTot
1North Carolina337.719.328.069.0261.72.039.0245.06.33.067.0506.77.612.311.32.326.09.791.30.31.01.3
2Clemson442.325.036.568.5310.02.538.5185.54.82.875.0495.56.614.08.82.024.86.560.00.50.30.8
3Virginia Tech342.711.723.749.3193.01.746.3299.36.53.770.0492.37.07.714.71.724.04.028.70.70.31.0
4Notre Dame340.316.025.762.3204.01.043.0270.76.34.068.7474.76.98.714.01.023.33.330.70.70.31.0
5Georgia Tech425.817.331.554.8239.31.542.5213.85.02.374.0453.06.110.011.50.822.39.872.01.02.03.0
6Wake Forest340.319.331.761.1268.01.042.7161.73.83.374.3429.75.811.012.02.325.33.020.30.30.00.3
7Miami (FL)436.820.033.360.2229.51.836.0196.55.52.569.3426.06.29.88.33.521.59.383.50.80.81.5
8Louisville429.018.331.058.9246.52.341.3177.84.31.572.3424.35.910.89.31.321.35.550.01.51.32.8
9Virginia327.328.751.355.8285.02.734.7139.04.01.086.0424.04.915.37.32.725.34.343.70.72.33.0
10Duke521.621.239.453.8263.01.039.4153.43.91.278.8416.45.313.07.61.422.04.242.62.01.83.8
11Pitt531.622.838.060.0284.21.639.2125.43.22.277.2409.65.311.68.02.622.27.263.40.40.61.0
12North Carolina State434.318.831.859.1240.02.340.8162.54.02.072.5402.55.610.89.02.322.09.077.50.01.01.0
13Florida State422.520.535.557.7224.31.041.0169.04.11.876.5393.35.110.811.01.523.39.381.80.51.52.0
14Boston College425.824.838.065.1295.32.032.360.31.91.070.3355.55.113.55.82.021.37.366.80.30.50.8
15Syracuse419.314.028.848.7176.51.333.377.52.30.562.0254.04.17.04.31.312.56.360.80.30.81.0

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Generated 10/11/2020.

UNC is averaging over 500 yards per game...that is pretty impressive. We are 5th (I think I am reading this right) in total yards, but tied for 12th in points. Therein lies the problem an offense that is not efficient due to turnovers. Fix that and a lot of things will be better. We are averaging 74 plays a game that is a lot. Much to my surprise we are not in last place in turnovers but not that far either from Duke who is last. Clemson, Virginia Tech, and Notre Dame are all averaging over 40 points a game and Carolina is not that far off. What we have here every Saturday is a track meet masquerading as a football game.
 
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UNC is averaging over 500 yards per game...that is pretty impressive. We are 5th (I think I am reading this right) in total yards, but tied for 12th in points. Therein lies the problem an offense that is not efficient due to turnovers. Fix that and a lot of things will be better. We are averaging 74 plays a game that is a lot. Much to my surprise we are not in last place in turnovers but not that far either from Duke who is last. Clemson, Virginia Tech, and Notre Dame are all averaging over 40 points a game and Carolina is not that far off. What we have here every Saturday is a track meet masquerading as a football game.
Until Friday night, that has been the problem --- good yards but few points on the board. Let's hope that whatever DP did Friday night, and in preparing for Friday night, he continues to do. I had no use for the man at all until Friday night game. Now I have a lot of hope.
 

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Until Friday night, that has been the problem --- good yards but few points on the board. Let's hope that whatever DP did Friday night, and in preparing for Friday night, he continues to do. I had no use for the man at all until Friday night game. Now I have a lot of hope.
Well, having Sims and Gibbs are two good reasons for hope, that and what seems to be a steadily improving offensive line. Defense...what's that?
 

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I doubt CDP has been calling interception and fumbling plays. Most of the turnovers are directly related to inexperience. We have started 3 and sometimes 4 true freshmen on offense. When we cut out the turnovers we will score more points. It is extremely obvious some of you have an agenda.
 

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No they just give you 2 outliers to base your crazy theory on.
Yeah, I’m not sure the concept that guys can learn fast if taught well is all that crazy. Again, Nebraska went from a triple option to a west coast offense and ran it with a 3 star guy recruited to play in an option offense. Their two most recent recruiting classes were ranked 39th and 41st. They managed to actually improve on offense having several 400+ and 500+ yard games and averaging more points per game than they did the year before. How did they accomplish such an impossible feat? They weren’t a great team by any means but they had no problem with their monumental transition on offense.
 

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Yeah, I’m not sure the concept that guys can learn fast if taught well is all that crazy. Again, Nebraska went from a triple option to a west coast offense and ran it with a 3 star guy recruited to play in an option offense. Their two most recent recruiting classes were ranked 39th and 41st. They managed to actually improve on offense having several 400+ and 500+ yard games and averaging more points per game than they did the year before. How did they accomplish such an impossible feat? They weren’t a great team by any means but they had no problem with their monumental transition on offense.
When is it you’re talking about, when Osborne stepped down? And they never ran a 3O based offense under Osborne either.
 
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