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In which an individual is never allowed to leave his job. “Sir, Billy hasn’t breathed in a month, his body is purple, and it really smells.” “Someone get Billy’s *** back on the line! We’ve got orders to ship.”

JFC. I was speaking to the transition. We started a converted tight end at tackle, a fullback at A-back, a walk-on at center, no backup to Dwyer, and had multiple freshman all over the field. Honestly I’m not sure why we’re even taking about Johnson, other than this weird fetish some...

It is some hardcore revisionist history to say we were loaded with NFL players (we weren’t) and that the transition to Johnson was going to be easy. We were picked to go 3-9. https://www.si.com/vault/issue/1002380/116

It’s not static, though. Like, it’s reasonable to expect 4-5 next season, a bowl game in 2021, and if he doesn’t hit nine by 2022, cut bait. What he can’t do is go 2-10 next season and 3-9 or 4-8 in 2021. He’s got to show improvement, and it should be at an increasing rate as time goes on.

Maybe this is my biggest gripe. I am not sure we are better than 2-10, given what he has. I really do think we are better than 45-0, and I think the players deserve better. They get four years to play, and it just seems like one of them got lit on fire.

He isn’t responsible for all of the flaws. He is responsible for at least some of some of them.

Comparing us to Bama isn’t good for anyone. We aren’t Bama, and we’re never going to be Bama. And yesterday we weren’t playing Bama. We played Virginia effing Tech, and a team that we had beaten four out of five came in and whipped us. I think the furthest we got offensively was our own 41...

A majority wanted to lose the option? Got any data to support that?

It’s not an excuse; it’s the truth. And even if it were an excuse, it doesn’t change the fact that since we’re getting all these awesome players, we should expect immediate results next year. No more five year plan!

Two four stars. It’s volume. If the players are good, 2020 should be much better. Good players don’t need time to develop.

Honestly it’s not even the result. Ironically, it’s the - to steal a term Collins likes - process. He just looks like a guy who doesn’t know what he’s doing. It’s one thing to not have the players; it’s entirely another to not be able to get the first play of the game off on time. I mean...

Honestly, I see no reason for fans to show up to games when the team doesn’t. Collins has better get his *** in gear, because being humiliated almost every week is not a great way to secure the good graces of his customers.

We’re gonna win. 23-17, Jackets.

We were also 13 points away from 7-5.

I dunno. Already in this thread we have people who think 7 or 8 wins is the goal, and others saying undefeated. I really don’t know how to negotiate those two.

You have highlighted an important issue. Distribution matters. Johnson and Gailey may have averaged roughly the same wins, but one of them had a couple of 11 win seasons. Those produce an awful lot of goodwill.

The real issue is that we don’t have consensus agreement on what the expectations should be. Are we supposed to compete with the best, or do we accept that that’s almost impossible and then apply lower expectations accordingly? Unless or until we have a broad consensus about what we should be...

Yeah, I expected us to struggle on offense simply because we don’t have any tackles on the roster that fit a traditional scheme. Everywhere else I thought we were at least okay. I am intrigued by the revisionist history (not by you) on the transition from Gailey to Johnson. I don’t intend to...

Are we sure about this?

100 or so anonymous randos on the internet have no effect of the program.