tmhunter52
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I sure hope Collins pulls the proverbial rabbit out of his hat this fall, that Tech is the P5 “surprise team of the year” and that we can all start feeling good about life again.
I sure hope Collins pulls the proverbial rabbit out of his hat this fall, that Tech is the P5 “surprise team of the year” and that we can all start feeling good about life again.
What odds do you think they have of making a team?Juanyeh and Tre also got picked up as free agents, but that would hurt your argument to acknowledge. NFL teams think these three are all good enough to bring on board, but you think it's their fault we sucked. Who's opinion do I trust more, hmm...
Gametape would say otherwise. Ask yourself, after the last 2 years of tape would you pick up Riq, Yeh, and Tre? Most of us here wouldn't, our secondary was atrocious. Many of our guys were picked up due to measurables, not body of work on field. Free agents barely make it on final rosters.Juanyeh and Tre also got picked up as free agents, but that would hurt your argument to acknowledge. NFL teams think these three are all good enough to bring on board, but you think it's their fault we sucked. Who's opinion do I trust more, hmm...
Add to that just the slightest bit of competency in the red zone and finishing drives. 3 and outs are rough, but we left so many points in the red zone... 3 and outs are physically taxing on a defense but empty drives are mentally taxing on everyone.If longs offense has a pulse defense will at least look better on paper not having to deal with back to back three and outs constantly.
They were picked up for their more natural positions. What if our defensive coaches had used them in the correct spots on the field. How much better would our backfield have been with the LB corps playing better, blitzing the QB giving him less time. Plus maybe we had someone on the bench who could have been better at safety instead of playing LB's at the Safety position.Gametape would say otherwise. Ask yourself, after the last 2 years of tape would you pick up Riq, Yeh, and Tre? Most of us here wouldn't, our secondary was atrocious. Many of our guys were picked up due to measurables, not body of work on field. Free agents barely make it on final rosters.
Yes, it was, but the question that begs to be answered is...Was our secondary atrocious because of bad coaching, or bad players? We had one guy playing out of position, and others who had the tools (or else they wouldn't even be considered for pro ball) but performed poorly. How do we know they wouldn't have performed better with better coaching? The fact that three guys on a horrible secondary have been drafted or have signed NFL contracts indicates bad coaching in the secondary and elsewhere on the defense crippled their performance.Gametape would say otherwise. Ask yourself, after the last 2 years of tape would you pick up Riq, Yeh, and Tre? Most of us here wouldn't, our secondary was atrocious. Many of our guys were picked up due to measurables, not body of work on field. Free agents barely make it on final rosters.
Very possible, wish those guys the best of luck. I guess we shall see how things shake out, but you bring up a good point. I'll be following closelyThey were picked up for their more natural positions. What if our defensive coaches had used them in the correct spots on the field. How much better would our backfield have been with the LB corps playing better, blitzing the QB giving him less time. Plus maybe we had someone on the bench who could have been better at safety instead of playing LB's at the Safety position.
A lot of problems were being out of position and leaving guys wide open. I blame some of that on the defensive coverage calls by the coaches. They didn't have one coach for the secondary. It was cobbled up among at least 3 of them. We didn't really seem to have a true cover corner that could lock down a receiver. There were issues but also those guys were on an island without an effective pass rush. I never faulted their effort.Gametape would say otherwise. Ask yourself, after the last 2 years of tape would you pick up Riq, Yeh, and Tre? Most of us here wouldn't, our secondary was atrocious. Many of our guys were picked up due to measurables, not body of work on field. Free agents barely make it on final rosters.
Yeah, I never said any of those things, but go off….and, about trusting someone’s opinion, I’d be willing to bet you’re one of those experts who clowns every decision this staff makes. Who’s opinion do I trust more, hmm… (and don’t mistake that for me agreeing with every decision they’ve made either)Juanyeh and Tre also got picked up as free agents, but that would hurt your argument to acknowledge. NFL teams think these three are all good enough to bring on board, but you think it's their fault we sucked. Who's opinion do I trust more, hmm...
That really depends on the player. Carpenter, Cochran, and Thomas have pretty good chances to make their respective teams. The rest, it is a long shot.What odds do you think they have of making a team?
People love to throw out that “only 1% make it to the league, blah blah blah” stat around. But that includes every college football player from Jordan Davis, to a 5’8” walk-on at D2 Northwest Louisiana Metro A&M.Yeah, I never said any of those things, but go off….and, about trusting someone’s opinion, I’d be willing to bet you’re one of those experts who clowns every decision this staff makes. Who’s opinion do I trust more, hmm… (and don’t mistake that for me agreeing with every decision they’ve made either)
Look, it’s great that those guys signed at UDFAs. I sincerely hope they make a roster. All that does is help us. But as far as the NFL “disagreeing” with our perception of our secondary’s talent level…keep in mind hundreds of players were selected in this draft. 20 safeties and 36 corners. One of those safeties played at Yale. Three of those corners are coming from the likes of Ouachita Baptist, Fayetteville State, and Valdosta State. I’d be curious to see what percentage of Power 5 starters (who didn’t get drafted) are getting a shake as an UDFA, as well as a mini camp invite. I’d be willing to bet if you’re a Power 5 starter, the odds of you at least getting invited to a mini camp are high.
Again, don’t mistake this as me trashing and blaming our former players for our shortcomings. These are just facts.
But our three weren't just invited to a mini camp, they have signed NFL contracts.Yeah, I never said any of those things, but go off….and, about trusting someone’s opinion, I’d be willing to bet you’re one of those experts who clowns every decision this staff makes. Who’s opinion do I trust more, hmm… (and don’t mistake that for me agreeing with every decision they’ve made either)
Look, it’s great that those guys signed at UDFAs. I sincerely hope they make a roster. All that does is help us. But as far as the NFL “disagreeing” with our perception of our secondary’s talent level…keep in mind hundreds of players were selected in this draft. 20 safeties and 36 corners. One of those safeties played at Yale. Three of those corners are coming from the likes of Ouachita Baptist, Fayetteville State, and Valdosta State. I’d be curious to see what percentage of Power 5 starters (who didn’t get drafted) are getting a shake as an UDFA, as well as a mini camp invite. I’d be willing to bet if you’re a Power 5 starter, the odds of you at least getting invited to a mini camp are high.
Again, don’t mistake this as me trashing and blaming our former players for our shortcomings. These are just facts.
For years Harvard had more players in NFL than Ga Tech.But our three weren't just invited to a mini camp, they have signed NFL contracts.
And the likes of Yale, Ouachita Baptist, Fayetteville State, and Valdosta State can and do have NFL caliber players occasionally - they just don't have as many of them as the P-5.
Oh, I know. I said UDFAs.But our three weren't just invited to a mini camp, they have signed NFL contracts.
And the likes of Yale, Ouachita Baptist, Fayetteville State, and Valdosta State can and do have NFL caliber players occasionally - they just don't have as many of them as the P-5.
The point of contention being discussed when you originally quoted my post was whether the coaches or the players were the problem, and you also agreed with SOWEGA that the guys we had needed to go. It certainly seems like you were taking that side, regardless of whether those were your specific words or not.Yeah, I never said any of those things, but go off….and, about trusting someone’s opinion, I’d be willing to bet you’re one of those experts who clowns every decision this staff makes. Who’s opinion do I trust more, hmm… (and don’t mistake that for me agreeing with every decision they’ve made either)
The RB we got from Buffalo was one of their best players wasn't he? Not sure who would think that is leftovers.Oh, I know. I said UDFAs.
And I agree with you regarding talent at lower division schools, but let me pose another question for you regarding DII players. What if we received a transfer from Ouachita Baptist? How would some of our fans react? I recall someone saying recently we’re getting Buffalo’s “leftovers” regarding the 1000 yard rusher we have coming in.
The RB we got from Buffalo was one of their best players wasn't he? Not sure who would think that is leftovers.