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They're not ranking the teams, they're ranking recruiting classes.Do the transfer rankings factor in the departures as well as the incoming?
They're not ranking the teams, they're ranking recruiting classes.Do the transfer rankings factor in the departures as well as the incoming?
Clemson learned the hard way with their QB transition with no competition at back up...AMEN. Even the top schools make mistakes on recruiting someone. If they were a 4 star coming out of HS, but have barely moved up the depth chart after 2 years, it could be that they were overrated by the recruiting services. OTOH, coaches make mistakes on evaluating what they have also, even Kirby didn't like Bennett for his first couple of years. I had extremely high hopes for Clayton, but for whatever reason.............
I think a good argument can be made for concentrating more on those types of guys than the former top 250 4 star players who couldn't get playing time at the schools they chose.
Freshmen who redshirted and transferred immediately aren't really the most common case of transfers. We have brought in 19 transfers in the last three years (so far), and only two of them were freshmen who just redshirted. I agree that they are a bit different than the guys who just finished their 2nd or 3rd year without much playing time. I still prefer 3rd and 4th year guys who are either grad transfers or moving on from coaching changes or whatever else. I just don't think many really young guys are transferring down and finding great success.Transfers should no longer really be viewed as all the same, or all that similar. It's silly to view freshmen who redshirted in the same light as 4th year players transferring for their last year in terms of valuing play time at a previous stop.
For instance, Johnson, Cochran, and Eley all redshirted as freshmen and didn't play that year. So all three of them couldn't get playing time at the schools they chose during the same period that is being judged for the other recruits.
No, the transfer rankings only look at who you signed through the transfer portal, not who you lost in it.Do the transfer rankings factor in the departures as well as the incoming?
Stands to reason, but it doesn't preclude a transferring redshirt freshman from making an impact. Freshmen aren't generally going to get a lot of playing time. If they've been on the bench two or three years, probably not. But you also have to look at where they're coming from and who they had playing in front of them. There's a heightened possibility that transfers from Alabama and Clemson are going to be able to help us out. Their bench is probably stronger than our starters in places, especially on the offensive line. It's a process. Are they going to come in here and propel us to the Orange Bowl? No. But they could help us take a step toward that goal somewhere down the line.While it is not a perfect I do think that in general the transfers that have done better have been the ones that played significant snaps at their previous schools. Guys like McGowan, Cochran, Johnson, Cimaglia, etc. Guys who were highly ranked out of HS but haven't played much at their previous stop have not been able to make as much of a contribution. There are exceptions to this both ways, but I feel like in general that has held pretty well.
Didn’t Baker tweet and delete that GT fans should blame our WR coach when he didn’t commit to us?I think this would be a good get. And, yes, we were on his final list IIRC. Hope we are an option for him.
I’m sure the staff knows things we don’t, but do we have any scholarships left for more transfers into the program?
No idea. But, I don't follow recruiting very closely, not even in the recruiting forums.Didn’t Baker tweet and delete that GT fans should blame our WR coach when he didn’t commit to us?
I recall a tweet along those lines but can’t remember if it was specifically toward one coach or not. I always felt like there were other factors beyond his skills during recruitment.Didn’t Baker tweet and delete that GT fans should blame our WR coach when he didn’t commit to us?
Freshmen who redshirted and transferred immediately aren't really the most common case of transfers. We have brought in 19 transfers in the last three years (so far), and only two of them were freshmen who just redshirted. I agree that they are a bit different than the guys who just finished their 2nd or 3rd year without much playing time. I still prefer 3rd and 4th year guys who are either grad transfers or moving on from coaching changes or whatever else. I just don't think many really young guys are transferring down and finding great success.