Paul Johnson time frame.

[GT_05]

I have knowledge from unknown and unreliable sources that Satterfield sent Woody to Tech to install his defense in preparation for his own coming after this season or next.

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Aww, c’mon man. Look at you starting rumors.


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[H-Wade]

You do understand that the assistant coaches do the VAST majority of recruiting don't you? The head coach is limited to ONE in home visit with a recruit. Why do you think PJ is not a good recruiter?

I already explained this in my first post on this topic. A young, energetic coach would absolutely improve recruiting. CPJ has never put a big emphasis on it, and has mentioned many times how he thinks the rankings are not worth crap. He just doesn't have the personality of a recruiter, or someone who tries to sell the program or hype it up at all.

Then you factor in the limitations our offense imposes on our recruiting, and that explains perfectly why I think he's not a good recruiter. I'm shocked that anyone is trying to argue that he IS a good recruiter, this is the first time I've seen that.

 

[jgtengineer]

LOL. If only USF didn't have the great Charlie Strong, we might have had a chance.

Strong may have failed at texas but he's a great coach. He made something out of nothing at lousiville and is doing well at USF, he could have also sat a year after texas and probably picked up a higher level job. The guy likes to coach.

 

[H-Wade]

Strong may have failed at texas but he's a great coach. He made something out of nothing at lousiville and is doing well at USF, he could have also sat a year after texas and probably picked up a higher level job. The guy likes to coach.

So you're saying the reason we lost that game is because CPJ was out-coached. Now I get it, you're saying we should upgrade and hire Strong this offseason.

 

[jgtengineer]

So you're saying the reason we lost that game is because CPJ was out-coached. Now I get it, you're saying we should upgrade and hire Strong this offseason.

No because the reasons strong couldn't make texas work aren't going to magically get better here. a Former five star QB isn't going to transfer into tech and run his system. And he's not recruiting one either.

 

[OldJacketFan]

I already explained this in my first post on this topic. A young, energetic coach would absolutely improve recruiting. CPJ has never put a big emphasis on it, and has mentioned many times how he thinks the rankings are not worth crap. He just doesn't have the personality of a recruiter, or someone who tries to sell the program or hype it up at all.

Then you factor in the limitations our offense imposes on our recruiting, and that explains perfectly why I think he's not a good recruiter. I'm shocked that anyone is trying to argue that he IS a good recruiter, this is the first time I've seen that.

Where did I say he was a good recruiter? Please don't try and put words in my mouth. A HC is limited to ONE in home visit with a recruit. Identifying, contacting, film review is all the area assistant coaches responsibility. They do run any request for an offer by PJ for his okay but recruiting falls in the job description for the assistant coaches. The HC at any school is the closer and neither you or I can know what percentage of recruits PH closes on and the one that are misses. All the energy and such you refer to, how do you know how PJ is when he is face to face with a recruit? Have you ever met him? Had the chance to actually talk to him? I've never heard a recruit, parent or HS head coach say that PJ can't or won't recruit. Unless you have facts to support what you're saying it's not anything more than your opinion.

 

[A Love Supreme]

No matter who the new coach will be, it will still be hard to recruit here. It's not like we are going to turn into a factory school. Players will still have to go to class. There are no coloring inside the lines majors at Tech.

 

[H-Wade]

Where did I say he was a good recruiter? Please don't try and put words in my mouth. A HC is limited to ONE in home visit with a recruit. Identifying, contacting, film review is all the area assistant coaches responsibility. They do run any request for an offer by PJ for his okay but recruiting falls in the job description for the assistant coaches. The HC at any school is the closer and neither you or I can know what percentage of recruits PH closes on and the one that are misses. All the energy and such you refer to, how do you know how PJ is when he is face to face with a recruit? Have you ever met him? Had the chance to actually talk to him? I've never heard a recruit, parent or HS head coach say that PJ can't or won't recruit. Unless you have facts to support what you're saying it's not anything more than your opinion.

You asked if GT can improve recruiting and I answered. I never said they were facts. Chill out, sorry that my opinion gets you so upset.

 

[OldJacketFan]

You asked if GT can improve recruiting and I answered. I never said they were facts. Chill out, sorry that my opinion gets you so upset.

Not upset, frustrated with what I perceive is folks not recognizing just what a roll of the dice is hiring a new coach is whether it's this year or whenever the end of PJ's tenure is. I can't think of another program that is harder to find the right coach than Tech

 

[MikeJackets1967]

Not upset, frustrated with what I perceive is folks not recognizing just what a roll of the dice is hiring a new coach is whether it's this year or whenever the end of PJ's tenure is. I can't think of another program that is harder to find the right coach than Tech

Vanderbilt has their problems in that area also and so do Tulane and Rice while Duke lucked out hiring Coach Cut

 

[A Love Supreme]

Not upset, frustrated with what I perceive is folks not recognizing just what a roll of the dice is hiring a new coach is whether it's this year or whenever the end of PJ's tenure is. I can't think of another program that is harder to find the right coach than Tech

Just curious of your opinion but, what is the right coach for Tech?

 

[H-Wade]

Not upset, frustrated with what I perceive is folks not recognizing just what a roll of the dice is hiring a new coach is whether it's this year or whenever the end of PJ's tenure is. I can't think of another program that is harder to find the right coach than Tech

It is a risk, but at this point most fans are ready to take it. You might be right in the long run that CPJ can turn the ship around, but right now you're in the minority. We'll see what happens, all I know is I want what's best for GT, as do 99% of us here.

 

[Vespidae]

Not upset, frustrated with what I perceive is folks not recognizing just what a roll of the dice is hiring a new coach is whether it's this year or whenever the end of PJ's tenure is. I can't think of another program that is harder to find the right coach than Tech

Try Tennessee. They fire a natty winner and then it’s a parade. Butch Jones was seventh on the list. And ... they have the money. The facilities. The fan base.

 

[OldJacketFan]

Just curious of your opinion but, what is the right coach for Tech?

Honestly I don't know. I can think of one or two but they are set where they are and I don't see them leaving. Just one example of who I would love to have is Gary Patterson.

 

[MikeJackets1967]

Try Tennessee. They fire a natty winner and then it’s a parade. Butch Jones was seventh on the list. And ... they have the money. The facilities. The fan base.

They backed into the strong hire of Coach Pruitt. He's such a grouch that he makes Paul Johnson seem like the friendliest guy you would ever meet

 

[A Love Supreme]

Honestly I don't know. I can think of one or two but they are set where they are and I don't see them leaving. Just one example of who I would love to have is Gary Patterson.

Not necessarily who, but what kind of characteristics and values do you want in the next coach?

 

[OldJacketFan]

It is a risk, but at this point most fans are ready to take it. You might be right in the long run that CPJ can turn the ship around, but right now you're in the minority. We'll see what happens, all I know is I want what's best for GT, as do 99% of us here.

Not sure I'm in the minority

 

[OldJacketFan]

Not necessarily who, but what kind of characteristics and values do you want in the next coach?

One with a defined persona whether it's offensive or defensive minded, ethical, stable, solid record as a HC or FBS top assistant. Not necessarily a rah rah type but more of a pro, nose for detail type.

 

[lv20gt]

Not upset, frustrated with what I perceive is folks not recognizing just what a roll of the dice is hiring a new coach is whether it's this year or whenever the end of PJ's tenure is. I can't think of another program that is harder to find the right coach than Tech

And you don't recognize that sticking with Johnson is also a roll of the dice. We rolled the dice last year when we extended Johnson after missing a bowl. So far it looks like we lost that gamble. You don't throw bad money after good. Sometimes you have to gold and gamble on a new hand.

 

[A Love Supreme]

One with a defined persona whether it's offensive or defensive minded, ethical, stable, solid record as a HC or FBS top assistant. Not necessarily a rah rah type but more of a pro, nose for detail type.

So you're saying no Lane Kiffin???? lol