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Who started the whole "The only way GT can compete with other schools is by using the triple option" narrative?
That's simply false. As I recall, one of the best offenses we've ever had that won us a National Championship wasn't based around the "triple option". That same offense took that coaching staff to the Super Bowl. We saw exciting QB play in that offense that eventually gave us the runner up in the Heisman (Joe Hamilton). For all crap we give Gailey, his "pro style" offense won him at least 7 games a year and took us to the ACC Championship. Outside of 2009 and 2014, 7 games a year is about what we're getting with CPJ.
Good coaches will get the most out of their talent and win games with whatever system they know best. Ross (well, Friedgen), Gailey, and CPJ knew what they wanted to do, and were/are all good coaches (though some may have issue saying that about Gailey). CPJ's offense isn't the sole reason why we're winning, it's because CPJ is just a good coach. It just so happens he's the foremost expert at what he does on offense.
You don't think if Tom Herman or a coach with a system like Art Briles, Chip Kelly, or Urban Meyer would win here, then you've been drinking too much Kool-aid. There's no doubt they probably wouldn't be pulling in 4/5 star talent like they have at their current schools, but they would recruit well enough at GT with their system to take us to bowl games consistently and win an ACC Championship once every 4-5 years. Their systems would actually attract better talent on the offensive side of the ball. QBs want to throw the ball, and skill players want to maximize their skillset catching passes and running the ball in a "NFL friendly" system. Unfortunately, that's just how recruits are these days.
The state of GA has become a hot bed for high level QBs lately, and is consistently putting out high level skill players. We get shut out of the top tier QBs during recruiting, and getting top tier skill players is few and far between. That's not a diss on the guys we're signing, it's just part and parcel of what comes with running this system. It sucks, but it's the truth when 4 and 5 star QBs would rather switch positions on the college level (Malcolm Parrish, and Nick Marshall) than play QB for us. Others (Deshaun Watson, Joshua Dobbs) won't even consider us because of our system.
I'm in no way making this about recruiting. It's just that if you say the "triple option" is the great equalizer for GT, you have to understand the sacrifice in other areas...specifically, personnel. It's not like CPJ's offense has been bad, it's actually been good to historically VERY good. Better players probably give you 2014 performances consistently. Get a more attractive system for recruits with a good coach, and GT would see similar results. I like CPJ's offense, but to say only the "triple option" offense would give GT a chance to compete ignores history and what's going on in college football today.
That's simply false. As I recall, one of the best offenses we've ever had that won us a National Championship wasn't based around the "triple option". That same offense took that coaching staff to the Super Bowl. We saw exciting QB play in that offense that eventually gave us the runner up in the Heisman (Joe Hamilton). For all crap we give Gailey, his "pro style" offense won him at least 7 games a year and took us to the ACC Championship. Outside of 2009 and 2014, 7 games a year is about what we're getting with CPJ.
Good coaches will get the most out of their talent and win games with whatever system they know best. Ross (well, Friedgen), Gailey, and CPJ knew what they wanted to do, and were/are all good coaches (though some may have issue saying that about Gailey). CPJ's offense isn't the sole reason why we're winning, it's because CPJ is just a good coach. It just so happens he's the foremost expert at what he does on offense.
You don't think if Tom Herman or a coach with a system like Art Briles, Chip Kelly, or Urban Meyer would win here, then you've been drinking too much Kool-aid. There's no doubt they probably wouldn't be pulling in 4/5 star talent like they have at their current schools, but they would recruit well enough at GT with their system to take us to bowl games consistently and win an ACC Championship once every 4-5 years. Their systems would actually attract better talent on the offensive side of the ball. QBs want to throw the ball, and skill players want to maximize their skillset catching passes and running the ball in a "NFL friendly" system. Unfortunately, that's just how recruits are these days.
The state of GA has become a hot bed for high level QBs lately, and is consistently putting out high level skill players. We get shut out of the top tier QBs during recruiting, and getting top tier skill players is few and far between. That's not a diss on the guys we're signing, it's just part and parcel of what comes with running this system. It sucks, but it's the truth when 4 and 5 star QBs would rather switch positions on the college level (Malcolm Parrish, and Nick Marshall) than play QB for us. Others (Deshaun Watson, Joshua Dobbs) won't even consider us because of our system.
I'm in no way making this about recruiting. It's just that if you say the "triple option" is the great equalizer for GT, you have to understand the sacrifice in other areas...specifically, personnel. It's not like CPJ's offense has been bad, it's actually been good to historically VERY good. Better players probably give you 2014 performances consistently. Get a more attractive system for recruits with a good coach, and GT would see similar results. I like CPJ's offense, but to say only the "triple option" offense would give GT a chance to compete ignores history and what's going on in college football today.
