Mostly “Fire Geoff Collins”, some reminiscing, maybe bourbon or other distractions

[JacketOff]

Like I said, you don't have to buy it. I'm betting that Vegas and the college football experts set next years over/under on wins at 5 or so. It's apparent to anyone who's watching without an agenda that GT is progressing as a team. It just hasn't translated into wins yet. That should start in the next two years. If CGC can get to 6 wins next year, I think we can contend for the Coastal again in 2023.

Why do you keep putting so much emphasis on what Vegas says? They get sh*t wrong all the time. BetMGM had our win total line at 5 this year. They had Wake Forest at 6.5, Syracuse at 3, Miami at 9.5, UNC at 10, Pitt at 7, and that’s just the ACC. They picked half of the ACC drastically wrong.

They also had Cincinnati at 10, Tulane at 5, Michigan at 7.5, Michigan State at 4.5!!!, Nebraska at 6, Northwestern at 6.5, Baylor at 5.5, Oklahoma State at 7.5, TCU at 7.5, Texas at 8, Northern Illinois at 3.5 (lol), Oregon at 9, Washington at 9, USC at 8.5, Georgia at 10.5, Arkansas at 5.5, LSU at 8.5, Florida at 9, Ole Miss at 7.5

Vegas doesn’t have to be anywhere close to 100% accurate to make money. All they have to do is be better than 50%, which isn’t really all that hard to do if you have all the data they have access to. Vegas makes most of their money from the uninformed bettor, and the folks who just throw money at lines without thinking about it. It literally doesn’t matter what Vegas sets the win total at. They’re going to get half of them wrong anyway. If you want to go back and look at what Vegas and other “experts” said in the preseason here’s the article I referred to.

College Football News Preseason Win Total Projections For All 130 Teams: Preview 2021

What are the College Football News preseason win total projections for all 130 teams? Where are the potential values? – Contact/Follow @ColFootballNews What’s going to happen for all 13…

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With 2 weeks, conference championships, and bowl games to be played, I would say after my quick overview about 1/3 of teams will be multiple games above or below their preseason betting line with no chance to end within 1 game of it.

 

[bobongo]

Why do you keep putting so much emphasis on what Vegas says? They get sh*t wrong all the time. BetMGM had our win total line at 5 this year. They had Wake Forest at 6.5, Syracuse at 3, Miami at 9.5, UNC at 10, Pitt at 7, and that’s just the ACC. They picked half of the ACC drastically wrong.

They also had Cincinnati at 10, Tulane at 5, Michigan at 7.5, Michigan State at 4.5!!!, Nebraska at 6, Northwestern at 6.5, Baylor at 5.5, Oklahoma State at 7.5, TCU at 7.5, Texas at 8, Northern Illinois at 3.5 (lol), Oregon at 9, Washington at 9, USC at 8.5, Georgia at 10.5, Arkansas at 5.5, LSU at 8.5, Florida at 9, Ole Miss at 7.5

Vegas doesn’t have to be anywhere close to 100% accurate to make money. All they have to do is be better than 50%, which isn’t really all that hard to do if you have all the data they have access to. Vegas makes most of their money from the uninformed bettor, and the folks who just throw money at lines without thinking about it. It literally doesn’t matter what Vegas sets the win total at. They’re going to get half of them wrong anyway. If you want to go back and look at what Vegas and other “experts” said in the preseason here’s the article I referred to.

College Football News Preseason Win Total Projections For All 130 Teams: Preview 2021

What are the College Football News preseason win total projections for all 130 teams? Where are the potential values? – Contact/Follow @ColFootballNews What’s going to happen for all 13…

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With 2 weeks, conference championships, and bowl games to be played, I would say after my quick overview about 1/3 of teams will be multiple games above or below their preseason betting line with no chance to end within 1 game of it.

Roughly speaking, Vegas sets the win total the same place they set the line - where they can even out the bets from the betting public on either side of it, with the bookies taking home the vigorish.

 

[gt02]

Vegas thinking it wouldn’t be a shock for a change to happen.

If Ken resigns or is fired, our AD needs to call Navy ASAP and tell them we know a coach that has experience with the most monumental transformation in history and can restock with elite athletes. That’s our only realistic way out of this contract this year. And the odds of that (according to all knowing Vegas) are less than 0.1%.

 

[Heisman's Ghost]

Our strength of schedule fell apart this year when several teams weren't nearly as good as expected. Next years schedule will likely be tougher with Ole Miss, and road games at UCF, and FSU.

Well, UNC has been a disappointment and perhaps, Virginia Tech too. We are playing Ole Miss, FSU, and UCF? Gee, someone in that athletic department just does not like Geoff. This year would have been a good time to play FSU...next year not so much.

 

[TheStolenT]

Well, UNC has been a disappointment and perhaps, Virginia Tech too. We are playing Ole Miss, FSU, and UCF? Gee, someone in that athletic department just does not like Geoff. This year would have been a good time to play FSU...next year not so much.

If Kiffin stays at ole miss the idea of him scheming against Thacker is terrifying.

 

[Augusta_Jacket]

Why do you keep putting so much emphasis on what Vegas says? They get sh*t wrong all the time. BetMGM had our win total line at 5 this year. They had Wake Forest at 6.5, Syracuse at 3, Miami at 9.5, UNC at 10, Pitt at 7, and that’s just the ACC. They picked half of the ACC drastically wrong.

They also had Cincinnati at 10, Tulane at 5, Michigan at 7.5, Michigan State at 4.5!!!, Nebraska at 6, Northwestern at 6.5, Baylor at 5.5, Oklahoma State at 7.5, TCU at 7.5, Texas at 8, Northern Illinois at 3.5 (lol), Oregon at 9, Washington at 9, USC at 8.5, Georgia at 10.5, Arkansas at 5.5, LSU at 8.5, Florida at 9, Ole Miss at 7.5

Vegas doesn’t have to be anywhere close to 100% accurate to make money. All they have to do is be better than 50%, which isn’t really all that hard to do if you have all the data they have access to. Vegas makes most of their money from the uninformed bettor, and the folks who just throw money at lines without thinking about it. It literally doesn’t matter what Vegas sets the win total at. They’re going to get half of them wrong anyway. If you want to go back and look at what Vegas and other “experts” said in the preseason here’s the article I referred to.

College Football News Preseason Win Total Projections For All 130 Teams: Preview 2021

What are the College Football News preseason win total projections for all 130 teams? Where are the potential values? – Contact/Follow @ColFootballNews What’s going to happen for all 13…

www.google.com

With 2 weeks, conference championships, and bowl games to be played, I would say after my quick overview about 1/3 of teams will be multiple games above or below their preseason betting line with no chance to end within 1 game of it.

I wonder what their overall accuracy is though. It's always easy to point out what they got wrong, but that's generally because it's an exception, not the rule.

 

[Heisman's Ghost]

If Kiffin stays at ole miss the idea of him scheming against Thacker is terrifying.

Maybe he (Kiffin) will get an offer and leave.

 

[Augusta_Jacket]

Maybe he (Kiffin) will get an offer and leave.

Kiffin will most likely get another shot at a big time job.

 

[Heisman's Ghost]

Kiffin will most likely get another shot at a big time job.

If Florida or Miami were smart, they would get their act together and go get him before he gets away.

 

[Augusta_Jacket]

If Florida or Miami were smart, they would get their act together and go get him before he gets away.

Virginia Tech should as well.

 

[smokey_wasp]

If Florida or Miami were smart, they would get their act together and go get him before he gets away.

Miami is reportedly interested.

 

[smokey_wasp]

Virginia Tech should as well.

I think that would be a step down from Ole Miss. I really feel like VaTech is going to have to go with up and comers for the forseeable future.

 

[GTLorenzo]

Virginia Tech should as well.

Ole Miss is a better job than VT even with the SEC West. Access to more money as well. You don’t leave Ole Miss or the SEC to go to VT.

 

[Augusta_Jacket]

I think that would be a step down from Ole Miss. I really feel like VaTech is going to have to go with up and comers for the forseeable future.

Ole Miss is a better job than VT even with the SEC West. Access to more money as well. You don’t leave Ole Miss or the SEC to go to VT.

Depends on how it's packaged and sold. VT has a longer history of sustained success than Ole Miss, and isn't shy about spending money. Easier path to the playoffs at VT than Florida. Same could be argued with Miami, but you've got to take on the Miami taint.

Personally, I think UF gets him.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

I'm in the part of the fanbase that is still holding out hope for CGC and company but I do understand the validity of other fan's arguments that want him gone at season's end. With players it is relatively easy to track their progress but with coaches not so much. My question is, is there any coach that started out as rough as CGC has and turned things around either at the program they had tough times with or elsewhere? I'm just trying to think of someone for my own reassurance that things can get better with him.

Just to be clear, I still hold out hope for CGC also. I also do not recommend nor see his immediate firing. However, I am not optimistic. Coaches do sometimes recover from having three catastrophic seasons in a row to start their tenure but it is rare. And they never become perennial champions, just kind of average.

 

[smokey_wasp]

Depends on how it's packaged and sold. VT has a longer history of sustained success than Ole Miss, and isn't shy about spending money. Easier path to the playoffs at VT than Florida. Same could be argued with Miami, but you've got to take on the Miami taint.

Personally, I think UF gets him.

Easier path, in a way. But also, you have to go undefeated at VT to make the playoff whereas you can definitely get in the conversation with one-loss in the SEC. And the recruiting landscape just isn't that good up there by comparison. I would think Miami would interest him more than VT. He actually likes the swagger and the recruiting potential is much better in S. FLA.

Agree UF gets him if they go after him.

 

[bobongo]

Just to be clear, I still hold out hope for CGC also. I also do not recommend nor see his immediate firing. However, I am not optimistic. Coaches do sometimes recover from having three catastrophic seasons in a row to start their tenure but it is rare. And they never become perennial champions, just kind of average.

I'm also in the hoping but not optimistic camp. With some better assistants and if he can keep up the recruiting, it could turn out fair to middling - better if he would get someone to make his game day decisions for him. I've seen absolutely nothing that indicates he knows what he's doing on the sideline.

 

[GTLorenzo]

Depends on how it's packaged and sold. VT has a longer history of sustained success than Ole Miss, and isn't shy about spending money. Easier path to the playoffs at VT than Florida. Same could be argued with Miami, but you've got to take on the Miami taint.

Personally, I think UF gets him.

Maybe you leave Vandy to go to VT. No way you leave Ole Miss to go to VT. Just won’t happen. Miami? Maybe, but not VT. It’s two or three steps down.

 

[augustabuzz]

If Kiffin stays at ole miss the idea of him scheming against Thacker is terrifying.

Yes, last time we met, Charles Kelley was DC and Lane got his butt kicked.

 

[Vespidae]

Miami wants Kiffin according to some pundits. He would have an easier time in the ACC having 10 win seasons. I don't think he is ready to leave Ole Miss yet but that would be a great coup for Miami.

Kiffin will most likely get another shot at a big time job.

Rumor is, LSU wants him. Kiffin‘s ultimate goal is to prop his feet up on Saban’s desk. (Don’t laugh. He’s the current favorite to succeed him.)