We will agree to disagree. Without superior coaching & a strategic advantage, we aren’t going to recruit our way to a double digit win season anymore. It is a much different landscape in CF today. The difference between those recruiting in top 5 and the rest is gargantuan.
I don't know if that was the case. Regardless of our offensive system, we need to look to schools like Michigan State and Iowa as models. Their bad years are just below or at .500 and, when the stars align every 4-5 years, they have a great year. We went through a short phase like that in Johnson's tenure
Agree to disagree. At least with the triple option, we had an identity. After three years of the "me too" offense, I would much rather have throw more resources into recruiting nationally for players to fit our offense. Given what we know now, personally I would have preferred to have gotten the coach at Army who has shown a willingness to tweak the triple option as needed. At this point, it really does not matter except that TStan has a major problem on his hands now.
Email sent. Respectful but to the point. It will go straight in the trash, I'm sure, but I won't watch the ship continue to sink without at least speaking up.
Yes. The problem here is that everyone has bought into the "We can't fire him because it would put us too far into debt" meme. It is now time to think seriously about just how far the program can sink with another year of the present staff and what our financial prospects will be if that happens. Sometimes it is better to take on a debt then to keep a failing regime in place. This, imho, is one of those times. I've been a season ticket holder for 28 years. I'm now seriously considering not renewing for next year if Collins and co. are still on the sidelines.
I agree that there is no substitute for raw talent. But let's think of it this way.
“The big donors gave us Lewis”??
Ego, and money, will ensure that Geoff coaches another two years. Gotta give him 5 years. When they turn on someone quickly (though 3 years is not a short amount of time really), it makes your decision to hire look even more foolish, and it makes potential futures coaches think twice about joining, because they know that the AD will turn on them just as quickly. It stinks, but it's how it is, IMO. Also, I'm sure someone will throw in the "Covid" excuse, though somehow Covid didn't hurt good football teams quite so much.
Two things happened today on National TV that made me chuckle. First was the Aflac trivia question on the Clemson Wake game was asking the last team to win the ACC not named Clemson or FSU. Both commentators said Georgia Tech(which was incorrect), but Greg MaCalroy openly said “they had some really good years under Coach Johnson. They were sneaky good for awhile”. Then Mike Terico reads that graphic on our game about how we went to 21 bowls in 23 years or whatever and the compared that to our current situation.
We agree some coaches can’t coach, no matter the talent. What I am saying is no matter how good the coach, if running basic stuff, recruiting in top 30 won’t get us to where I want to be in some special seasons. If fortunate, we might win 8-9 every few years. I want the opportunity for even more in special seasons.
This program is almost dead, and the eulogy could come next week. So he would be fully qualified for a moribund team. This reminds me of the last two games of Chan‘s tenure. It potentially builds into the off-season. The A.D. felt that pressure.
I don't think we're disagreeing that much. We both think that we need (1) a good coach, and (2) a good recruiter (to bring in good players). I think we may also agree that Geoff is neither of those, though he's clearly got the energy and ability to recruit better than CPJ. Either way, I don't think he's our guy. Case closed?
