Marcus Marshall Transferring

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Like most have tried to imply in this thread, here's just another example of MM "not being able to run through tackles, get tough yards, run low, etc. He dances too much and can't get the tough 3-4 yards that our other backs can get on a regular basis". lmao - Dude is the best back on our squad by a mile.

In case you're counting, that's THREE BROKEN TACKLES AND THEN DRAGGING A D-LINEMAN AS THE FOURTH. But it was only during the most crucial point in the game, so, nothing that can't be replaced I guess...

 

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Funny how nobody ever mention this argument when it come to Roof. It's only ever Johnson that gets the shield of "getting paid to do it".

That's because Paul Johnson has a track record of putting productive offenses on the field for about 30 years. 20 of those as a head coach. Roof's been mediocre just about everywhere he's been. There's a reason one gets the benefit of the doubt and the other doesn't and it's pretty clear why when you're not looking through "I hate CPJ" goggles.

Remember. Skov started over Marshall. That tells me all I need to know about the staff's judgement when it comes to bbacks.

That's because you choose to perceive in a way that fits your own personal beliefs of the head coach.
 

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All this talk about Marshall made me look up what Travis Custis is up to. 301 yards this year on 51 carries in 8 games. Not too shabby. Seems like they would give him more carries at West Georgia, but this is just how they use him, I guess.
I looked him up as well, and man do I wish we still had him. I haven't talked to him in a while so idk if he plans on transfering to a D1 school next year and then the pros. From what I understand he would love to still play for GT, only thing is when he went to Hutchinson they didn't have the class requirements for him to transfer back to GT, and I doubt he's taking classes now that would allow him to get back into GT for just one year even if he didn't graduate that same year, but went pro after the season. Imo he will get a chance at the next level with some team out there. I think he's at west Georgia over the other big D 1 schools that offers so he would be close to home.
 

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MM had every chance to win the starting spot and failed to do so. He was the incumbent which gave him an advantage. He knew the offense which gave him an advantage. He was a year older and acclimated to college which gave him an adantage. And yet he lost the position battle still. Do you think CPJ wants to lose or is incapable of picking the better man for the job he invented?

Go cry me a river.
I haven't bothered to read all 16 pages this thread stretched to. I went back the last 2 or 3 and realized I just wasn't into it. Here's the bottom line-- as JJ Green said the other day, "If I block, I get to carry the rock."

If' all you're interested in is carrying the rock, your p.t. in this offense is going to be limited. If you get unhappy with that arrangement, which you knew coming out of high school, then you have a decision to make. It's been the case for a handful of talented guys who came here and decided they just weren't bought in.

It happens, and of course not just here.
 
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I haven't read every post in the thread, either. I understand the frustration of some posters who are blaming the staff. I believe they see the undeniable talent of MM as irreplaceable. And I think they are probably right that no one we currently have possesses the explosive open-field ability that he has. This ability is valuable, and exciting. However, DM won the job for a reason.

If you believe CPJ played the wrong player, I question your football knowledge and common sense. As a coach myself, you always play the best player, barring severe character issues that disqualify him (and even if he serves punishments, when the punishments are complete you continue to play the best player as long he is in good standing). Coach believed DM to be the best player, for the sole reason that he gave us the best chance to win, and was the most complete BB. I believe he still is, and I hope that he makes the academic progress necessary to remain the starter there. We will miss MM. I wish him well. It is disappointing that he didn't believe he could win the job back, or fight for a move to AB and work on the skills necessary to play that position.

Finally, the best GT offense we have ever had (2014) did not have a BB with explosive speed. The greatest BB this offense has ever produced (Adrian Peterson) certainly did not have explosive speed.
 

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I haven't bothered to read all 16 pages this thread stretched to. I went back the last 2 or 3 and realized I just wasn't into it. Here's the bottom line-- as JJ Green said the other day, "If I block, I get to carry the rock."

If' all you're interested in is carrying the rock, your p.t. in this offense is going to be limited. If you get unhappy with that arrangement, which you knew coming out of high school, then you have a decision to make. It's been the case for a handful of talented guys who came here and decided they just weren't bought in.

It happens, and of course not just here.

If GT fans haven't already figured it out by now (after 9 seasons!), this offense is the ultimate "Check your ego at the door" system. Which means the kids who come to GT and play can't come in with the expectations they're going to be "the man". Some days they will be the wheel, other days they will be a spoke in the wheel. As the good Doc alluded to, you have to be willing to perfect the dirty work first before you graduate to being a playmaker.

Probably the reason why Navy does so well every year. They get these under recruited SAs who prepare for futures in the ultimate "team" role...defending their country. On the field, every single one of them don't bat an eye at throwing their bodies at defenders so their teammate can make a play. Really, that's the epitome of serving your country.

I think for the most part GT gets those type of SAs as well. Every once in a while you have guys who can't live with that and leave so they can have a bigger role elsewhere. Then we also get guys like Nesbitt and JeT...pretty decorated HS stars willing to buy into what this scheme means...and you get a chance to win the ACC Championship.
 

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If GT fans haven't already figured it out by now (after 9 seasons!), this offense is the ultimate "Check your ego at the door" system. Which means the kids who come to GT and play can't come in with the expectations they're going to be "the man". Some days they will be the wheel, other days they will be a spoke in the wheel. As the good Doc alluded to, you have to be willing to perfect the dirty work first before you graduate to being a playmaker.

Probably the reason why Navy does so well every year. They get these under recruited SAs who prepare for futures in the ultimate "team" role...defending their country. On the field, every single one of them don't bat an eye at throwing their bodies at defenders so their teammate can make a play. Really, that's the epitome of serving your country.

I think for the most part GT gets those type of SAs as well. Every once in a while you have guys who can't live with that and leave so they can have a bigger role elsewhere. Then we also get guys like Nesbitt and JeT...pretty decorated HS stars willing to buy into what this scheme means...and you get a chance to win the ACC Championship.
Well said agree 100%
 

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Then we also get guys like Nesbitt and JeT...pretty decorated HS stars willing to buy into what this scheme means...and you get a chance to win the ACC Championship.
JeT was actually a little bit too unselfish early in the year. Coach had to tell him to run it more.
 

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Funny how nobody ever mention this argument when it come to Roof. It's only ever Johnson that gets the shield of "getting paid to do it".

Anyways, this is the third year in a row that the game 1 starter at Bback was not the game 12 starter at bback, and has not been the leading rusher from the position, either in total yards or ypc.

Here is the plain and simple truth. We had a back lead our team in rushing as a true freshman and true sophomore, despite not being the starter. He was a proven home run threat, and had good size to match. He obviously attempted to improve in the offseason in both blocking and getting the tough yards. He never was a problem off the field, and despite almost certainly knowing he was going to transfer before the game, THIS was his last run as a GT player. Marcus Marshall is exactly the kind of player we need at BBack.

He is now transferring, and the worst part is that he is completely justified in doing so. Dude was underutilized and underappreciated by both fans and coaches.

Remember. Skov started over Marshall. That tells me all I need to know about the staff's judgement when it comes to bbacks.
I think the difference is with Roof, we keep seeing linebackers fill the wrong gap and cover the wrong guy so we’re going to speculate why someone else isn’t out there especially when we see them do good things when they are. It’s not like Mills is out there doing everything incorrect while Marshall is blowing the doors off. Very rarely have we seen someone else perform better on the field and not playing under CPJ. You of course got the people who always think the backups are better but they don’t count. And Skov started over Marshall because of Marshall's fumbling problems and misssed blocking assignments. If you didn't see that last year, you need to rewatch. Skov made a lot of good plays last year and so did Marshall but you could rely on Skov more. The offensive line didn't help anyone.
 

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The fact that Quaide was put in to block on the 4th down against Virginia tells you what the coaches think of MM's blocking. He missed the block, of course, but it seemed pretty clear that they had more confidence in his ability to make the block than Marcus. If Dedrick played in that game, I don't see any way he wouldn't have been in on that play.
 

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The fact that Quaide was put in to block on the 4th down against Virginia tells you what the coaches think of MM's blocking. He missed the block, of course, but it seemed pretty clear that they had more confidence in his ability to make the block than Marcus. If Dedrick played in that game, I don't see any way he wouldn't have been in on that play.
Bingo. I've been waiting for someone to mention that play and why QW was in.
 

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I think the difference is with Roof, we keep seeing linebackers fill the wrong gap and cover the wrong guy so we’re going to speculate why someone else isn’t out there especially when we see them do good things when they are. It’s not like Mills is out there doing everything incorrect while Marshall is blowing the doors off. Very rarely have we seen someone else perform better on the field and not playing under CPJ. You of course got the people who always think the backups are better but they don’t count. And Skov started over Marshall because of Marshall's fumbling problems and misssed blocking assignments. If you didn't see that last year, you need to rewatch. Skov made a lot of good plays last year and so did Marshall but you could rely on Skov more. The offensive line didn't help anyone.
Skov also became much less effective after he injured both shoulders.
 

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The fact that Quaide was put in to block on the 4th down against Virginia tells you what the coaches think of MM's blocking. He missed the block, of course, but it seemed pretty clear that they had more confidence in his ability to make the block than Marcus. If Dedrick played in that game, I don't see any way he wouldn't have been in on that play.

Or maybe it was a play that personnel group had down pat so well in practice that it was guaranteed to succeed. JT wasn't in there either yaknow. Also MJ bobbled the snap.


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Or maybe it was a play that personnel group had down pat so well in practice that it was guaranteed to succeed. JT wasn't in there either yaknow. Also MJ bobbled the snap.


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Maybe, but I don't think so. Nothing against Quaide, but he would never have seen the field on that play if Dedrick was playing that day.
 

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You know why the offense was so inconsistent against Duke and UVA? The Bback position was not very successful aside from the three (two against UVA, one against Duke) chunk plays. Mills has less of a home run threat, but is more consistent. The offense is more successful with consistent Bback play.
 

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You know why the offense was so inconsistent against Duke and UVA? The Bback position was not very successful aside from the three (two against UVA, one against Duke) chunk plays. Mills has less of a home run threat, but is more consistent. The offense is more successful with consistent Bback play.
To be fair, Duke completely sold out on stopping the BB.
 
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