King Injury Factual Updates
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iceeater1969
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Listened to a ND presser and they listed 6 or so players who are injured w some vague info. Annouced the top defensive player and team captain out for season. They seem confifent in replacements.
I enjoy that more open ( but not eeally) communication method instead of "everyone is day to day".
I enjoy that more open ( but not eeally) communication method instead of "everyone is day to day".
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We’re a better football team with H. King on the field. If he’s able to go I believe we’ll end up 8-4 regular season. 2 huge wins the last 2 weeks. Let’s go Ga Tech baby
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I believe Pyron can do this, too. He’s shown his abilities. We were all pretty excited to see what he could do after the collarbone healed before HK transferred in and won the job. Like all of us, I wish we had more games in the bag so Zach, Aaron, and Brody could get more game reps, but we haven’t. I think we’ll be fine Saturday whoever starts.
I wish I shared everyone's optimism here. I have no doubts Pyron (and the coaches) comes out more prepared against ND than he looked against UNC, but a healthy Haynes King throws a better ball and is a home run threat every time he takes off on the ground. Pyron is a bulldozer whose big body falls forward and gets you 3.5 yards per rush on a good day. Removing the home run threat QB read option out of our playbook drops an entire dimension from our offense...I can't see us winning this week's game without Haynes King in.
Even prior to UNC, the coaches have not let Pyron throw the ball at the goal line all season. When he's been put in games this season, you already know when they break the huddle that the playcall is a read option. It's not really even an effective playcall - it's been mostly successful before the UNC game this year but they are not convincing touchdowns - it's not like a Jalen Hurts tush push situation where they (with Jason Kelce) were converting short yardage something like 97% of the time.
Even prior to UNC, the coaches have not let Pyron throw the ball at the goal line all season. When he's been put in games this season, you already know when they break the huddle that the playcall is a read option. It's not really even an effective playcall - it's been mostly successful before the UNC game this year but they are not convincing touchdowns - it's not like a Jalen Hurts tush push situation where they (with Jason Kelce) were converting short yardage something like 97% of the time.
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stinger78
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Why would they want him to throw in that situation? He needed to throw Saturday and tossed a perfect pass. He was 1/1 passing. The next play Haynes housed it.
Unless you're Jalen Hurts and the 2023 Eagles OL, you can't just telegraph your playcall to your opponent. He got stuffed multiple times by UNC on the goal line read option last game.
His 1 pass last game was a screen. And I know it was mostly a drain the clock situation, but Pyron had a 3rd and 5 (though this one was in 4 down territory so I get the run play on 3rd more here to maybe get to 4th and manageable) and 3rd and 6. Haynes King would have been allowed to throw the ball on both those plays. Coach Key has vocalized in pressers how awful Birr is from the right hash and they STILL kicked it on 4th and 4 rather than trust Pyron to pick up a 1st down.
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Agree completely.
Why do they want Pyron running when everyone knows he is coming? Because if he is qb we are going to have more short yardage plays and Pyron is a good option He is practicing a critical play he will need to be good when he starts.
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OK, we’ve heard all that before, multiple times. Pyron is put in at the GL to run the QB sneak. He’s bigger, more powerful runner than HK. We shouldn’t be surprised when he runs the QB sneak at the GL. Just about every QB sneak is run when everybody knows it’s coming. It’s a dare you to stop me play. Sometimes they do.
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Wasn't really a screen was a read option triple. The same one we scored on actually. We just ran the same read option smoke counter twice in a row and the second time we popped the dive. Rutherford was the pitch option.
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A former coach would set up tendencies on film and wait for the ideal time to break that tendency.
I’d like to believe that’s what’s happening here too.
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In 2007 we used Nesbitt in the wildcat and it was a run everytime. Until it wasn’t (it was an incompletion but to a wide open receiver as I recall, in the infamous VT sharpie jersey game).
I assume sooner or later we’ll likely see that from the regular “Pyron package” too but the usage/playcalling being situational tells us nothing about his arm.
If we hadn’t put Pyron in for those plays there’s a GREAT chance we would’ve run anyway. we run more frequently than most teams.
I assume sooner or later we’ll likely see that from the regular “Pyron package” too but the usage/playcalling being situational tells us nothing about his arm.
If we hadn’t put Pyron in for those plays there’s a GREAT chance we would’ve run anyway. we run more frequently than most teams.
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Would you expect anything less from this group
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Nailed it
WraleighWreck
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Factual information:
1) we don’t know anything about HK’s condition.
2) we will not know anything more about HK’s condition until gt offense takes the field sat afternoon.
3) thwg
1) we don’t know anything about HK’s condition.
2) we will not know anything more about HK’s condition until gt offense takes the field sat afternoon.
3) thwg
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A lot of us here make up our own facts as we go!
It's easier and quicker than looking stuff up.^ this is a fact. OTOH, if you did come here with different expectations I must say I admire your optimism and your faith in your fellow man.
I expect we will know how things are at about the same time as the casual non-partisan fan who will watch the game on TV.I wonder if Key knows how this (withholding factual information, esp. vis-a-vis player injuries) makes it very difficult for the betting public?? seems very self centered to me.
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what kind of betting odds are you offering on #2?