GT - ND postgame thread

[Pointer]

Are posts getting deleted?

 

[Pointer]

Lack of upperclass talent, particularly along the LOS.

I see a lack of coaching. We can agree to disagree.

 

[jwsavhGT]

Conversations related to HC comparisons are being moved to

A Thread to Rehash GT HC Comparisons

Decisions have consequences. These are the things we knew would happen when you switch to something drastically different. If you didn't want to be bad for 5 years and potentially tank your program, you should have hired Jeff Monken and kept Nate Woody as defensive coordinator... he is now at...

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[orientalnc]

With my moderator hat on: If you want to discuss firing coaches, we have a thread for that. This is not it.

With my mod hat on the hall hat rack: ND is a good team. They are not as good as Clemson when TL is in the lineup, but they are good. Their OL is really good and allows Book to stand in the pocket as long as he needs. They play five TE that are really good. On D they are one of the best teams in the country. If you thought we would win today and are pissed off that we lost, you are just not in my universe.

 

[Pointer]

Conversations related to HC comparisons are being moved to

A Thread to Rehash GT HC Comparisons

Decisions have consequences. These are the things we knew would happen when you switch to something drastically different. If you didn't want to be bad for 5 years and potentially tank your program, you should have hired Jeff Monken and kept Nate Woody as defensive coordinator... he is now at...

gtswarm.com

I was confused for a second. Sorry for being off topic.

 

[Ibeeballin]

Because..... recruiting is a fools errand. We will not ever (in modern college football) recruit the kind of DL size and length and we will never recruit the depth needed to be Elite (TM) or to compete At A High Level (TM). So you’ve got to be different. To do otherwise is to be stuck in the middle which means lots of 5-7 win years and you’ll need to out coach and compete to get anything beyond that. There is no evidence in 1.5 yr that this staff can pull that off.

1) Exactly what were players going to be evaluated on with no camps & some states not playing football? Don’t forget to include transfer in your recruiting analysis

2) If you keep saying something doesn’t make it true in who we can and can’t get

 

[NorthAvenueNation]

curry: same **** always
Sims: um ok then
Gibbs: your carrying
O line: my god

Based on your assumption of the OL (which I agree with) wouldn’t that put Gibbs and Sims in a more positive light? Sims is the future; embrace it! The OL recruits are coming and Curry is gone this year after 19 years on the Flats. Stay positive!

 

[NorthAvenueNation]

2019 type game

Can’t scheme around bad OL play. Just outmanned yo front

Really tough to play defense when you have 9-10 players vs. 11.

Little league coaches teach LBs that once the QB scramble outside of the pocket to your side come out of your zone and rush him. Didn’t see that once

Coaches coach, but players play the game.
Teachers teach, but students take the tests.

Not sure if the little league comment was a shot at the current coaching staff... regardless, as you know, players play the game.

 

[Dress2Jacket]

I see a lack of coaching. We can agree to disagree.

Dodd, Heisman, and Ross couldn't have succeeded against the last three teams we played. There's no solution when you get thumped on the LOS routinely.

 

[Pointer]

Dodd, Heisman, and Ross couldn't have succeeded against the last three teams we played. There's no solution when you get thumped on the LOS routinely.

I didn't expect a win vs nd or Clemson. All the others, we should at least be competitive.

 

[awbuzz]

Simple question... On what became the last play of the first half, why didn't Sims try to get out of bounds and give us a shot at one more play, instead of cutting up field and sliding down?

 

[stech81]

I just want to say we played a great game and the coaches called a great game. and our kicking how could you like like what you saw. We controlled the LOS our OL pushed their DL in our backfield.
I got to get some more beer before I sober up.

 

[Ibeeballin]

Coaches coach, but players play the game.
Teachers teach, but students take the tests.

Not sure if the little league comment was a shot at the current coaching staff... regardless, as you know, players play the game.

Ive been preaching this all yr. all coordinators look incompetent when players don’t execute

 

[stech81]

Simple question... On what became the last play of the first half, why didn't Sims try to get out of bounds and give us a shot at one more play, instead of cutting up field and sliding down?

We didn't want to embarrass them

 

[GoJacketsInRaleigh]

You mean this mid to low tier B10 team

That then beat Auburn in their bowl.

Minnesota Golden Gophers Schedule 2019​

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Regular Season
DATE	OPPONENT	RESULT	W-L (CONF)	HI PASS	HI RUSH	HI REC
Thu, Aug 29	vs South Dakota State	W28-21	1-0 (0-0)	Morgan 176	Smith 92	Bateman 132
Sat, Sep 7	@ Fresno State	W38-35 2OT	2-0 (0-0)	Morgan 234	Ibrahim 88	Bateman 105
Sat, Sep 14	vs Georgia Southern	W35-32	3-0 (0-0)	Morgan 289	Smith 57	Johnson 140
Sat, Sep 28	@ Purdue	W38-31	4-0 (1-0)	Morgan 396	Smith 115	Bateman 177
Sat, Oct 5	vs Illinois	W40-17	5-0 (2-0)	Morgan 155	Smith 211	Bateman 71
Sat, Oct 12	vs Nebraska	W34-7	6-0 (3-0)	Morgan 128	Smith 139	Johnson 109
Sat, Oct 19	@ Rutgers	W42-7	7-0 (4-0)	Morgan 245	Smith 111	Johnson 130
Sat, Oct 26	vs Maryland	W52-10	8-0 (5-0)	Morgan 138	Smith 103	Autman-Bell 56
Sat, Nov 9	vs 4 Penn State	W31-26	9-0 (6-0)	Morgan 339	Smith 51	Bateman 203
Sat, Nov 16	@ 20 Iowa	L23-19	9-1 (6-1)	Morgan 368	Smith 46	Johnson 170
Sat, Nov 23	@ Northwestern	W38-22	10-1 (7-1)	Morgan 211	Smith 77	Johnson 125
Sat, Nov 30	vs 12 Wisconsin	L38-17	10-2 (7-2)	Morgan 296	Ib

LOL. That's not the team that beat the snot out of us. At least have an honest argument

 

[Deleted member 2897]

6 has to stay out of the line of scrimmage - it’s just not his bag. If he does get through, he doesn’t get the sack. He needs space between himself and the line to follow the play. He spends most of the game chasing plays. When he has space (like 3 feet between him and the DL) to see the play he seems like a completely different player.

 

[RonJohn]

Simple question... On what became the last play of the first half, why didn't Sims try to get out of bounds and give us a shot at one more play, instead of cutting up field and sliding down?

Or just throw the ball away.

 

[Dress2Jacket]

Simple question... On what became the last play of the first half, why didn't Sims try to get out of bounds and give us a shot at one more play, instead of cutting up field and sliding down?

Sim's field/game/situational awareness isn't very good. Hopefully that improves. If you want to win consistently, your QB needs good awareness.

Kellen Mond at TAM is a guy who's very talented but it has taken him until his senior year to know when to take a risk, when not to, when to throw the ball away, etc. I hope Sims comes around much faster than that...

 

[Scubapro]

Coaches coach, but players play the game.
Teachers teach, but students take the tests.

Not sure if the little league comment was a shot at the current coaching staff... regardless, as you know, players play the game.

Sounds like you are blaming the players

 

[NorthAvenueNation]

Not a good game. D was ok, saw some improvement. But man the offense was not in the game at all. I know this was a top 5 team, but had we not hurt ourselves again we couldn't have been in it. Collins isn't building confidence with the fanbase or media that his coaches and coaching are helping improve things . What's his excuse this week

This is my last reply for the night to a “fan”. Let me explain before you get upset and want to send a snarky reply; I come in peace.

“What’s his excuse this week” is a baseless argument. Correct me if I’m wrong, you’re not a coach, nor are you related to anything inside the football team. Therefore, your pulse of the team is the same as mine: a team that we see in tv once a week abs read about. Neither of us are on the ins and outs of what happens daily on campus and at practice.

Secondly, pick any job you’d like and apply this logic: You won’t nor get the funding you need to make it happen, for at least the first two years you won’t have the team you need as they were hired under a different vision and lastly, you’ll be constantly criticized by folks that think they have a vision and opinion but don’t contribute to the cause other than words.

I say all of this in complete peace; give the process a chance. I hate losing; loved CPJ; have been a fan for a long time; etc. BUT, I realize a change was coming and needed... give it more than 1 year + COVID. Be excited that we have a few 18 year olds that will get an additional year of eligibility!