Deion/ GT having discussion?

[Oldgoldandwhite]

He could be a legend here. Would he use us for a steppingstone, probably. But so would just about anyone not nearing retirement. That’s the name of the game in coaching.

 

[cthenrys]

A lot of things can be said about Collins, but LAZY isn't one of them.

He works Every. Single. Day. With relentless effort so he can’t be lazy.

(And no, I would not ever think him or call him lazy. He’s just not good at his job)

 

[tmhunter52]

Deion still got bag men at Jackson State of all places. There is something to be said about that

Maybe Deion IS the bag man…

 

[YoungSting]

How long does a stepping stone job usually last?

 

[RonJohn]

How long does a stepping stone job usually last?

For Temple it was 17 days with Manny Diaz.

 

[tmhunter52]

Desperation and panic seldom lead to anything other than more of same. True for the market, true for the corporate world, true in a fire or most dangerous situations, and apparently true the last time we hired a coach. Bobby Ross and Paul Johnson were proven entities when we hired them, so shouldn't we learn from our successes ?

If you can’t have both, in today’s world which pathway leads to greater success - good recruiting or good coaching…

 

[GTLorenzo]

If you can’t have both, in today’s world which pathway leads to greater success - good recruiting or good coaching…

Based on the last three years, I would say coaching. Obviously, recruiting his critical as well, but I think coaching will at least get you headed in the right direction.

 

[TooTall]

For Temple it was 17 days with Manny Diaz.

And we saw how well that worked out for him...

 

[RonJohn]

And we saw how well that worked out for him...

Well, it depends on how you look at it. He made more in three years than I have made in my entire life. I would say that part worked out pretty well.

Also, I think the question was how long a "stepping stone" coach lasts. I don't think it makes any difference to Temple what Diaz did after he left. They thought they had a coach, and then they no longer had a coach.

 

[GTLorenzo]

Well, it depends on how you look at it. He made more in three years than I have made in my entire life. I would say that part worked out pretty well.

Also, I think the question was how long a "stepping stone" coach lasts. I don't think it makes any difference to Temple what Diaz did after he left. They thought they had a coach, and then they no longer had a coach.

Temple made out like bandits financially. Got a buyout for Collins and Diaz. Not so much on the field. (8-5, 1-6, 3-9)

Stepping stone would likely be 2-4 years. Enough to show you can turn it around.

 

[Heisman's Ghost]

Have you seen his requirements for the team? Sit in the front of the class, no tank tops, no slides are just some of them

Pray, what are "slides"? I am 67 and not conversant with an urban dictionary.

 

[CEB]

If you can’t have both, in today’s world which pathway leads to greater success - good recruiting or good coaching…

Coaching. Hands down. Every day of the week and twice on Saturday!
Good coaches know how to assemble and use talent to the best of its ability.
Talent rarely knows how to work toward common success without some level of guidance.

 

[GTLorenzo]

Pray, what are "slides"? I am 67 and not conversant with an urban dictionary.

Basically flip flops.

 

[GTLorenzo]

Coaching. Hands down. Every day of the week and twice on Saturday!
Good coaches know how to assemble and use talent to the best of its ability.
Talent rarely knows how to work toward common success without some level of guidance.

Yep. That's what I was trying to say.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

He works Every. Single. Day. With relentless effort so he can’t be lazy.

(And no, I would not ever think him or call him lazy. He’s just not good at his job)

Not arguing the point but just an observation from watching people work over many decades. If you don’t get better at your job you are lazy. Industrious people put in the work to get better. If you have a set way of doing things, don’t work to improve areas where you are deficient and don’t take constructive criticism, you are lazy.

I’m not saying CGC is lazy, just saying not getting better at your job is a sign of laziness no matter how many hours you are putting in.

 

[ScGold]

Source please?

Sorry can't do that.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

Based on the last three years, I would say coaching. Obviously, recruiting his critical as well, but I think coaching will at least get you headed in the right direction.

Have to say I agree.

Problem is we have had well over a decade of Tech fans complaining about recruiting, saying we have to have better recruiting or we will never be able to compete.

So if recruiting is now our top priority then Deion is the way to go.

But don’t get me wrong, I would go back to a Johnson style coach in a heart beat if I thought Tech fans were ready to be more reasonable.

 

[GTLorenzo]

Have to say I agree.

Problem is we have had well over a decade of Tech fans complaining about recruiting, saying we have to have better recruiting or we will never be able to compete.

So if recruiting is now our top priority then Deion is the way to go.

But don’t get me wrong, I would go back to a Johnson style coach in a heart beat if I thought Tech fans were ready to be more reasonable.

I think if you look at our history, our best coaches have been our best COACHES. Johnson, O'Leary, Ross, Dodd. I think if you can get a few winning years together, the recruiting will, to some degree, take care of itself. The lesser coaches have been those with limited experience or just recent high profile experience, Collins, Lewis, Curry, Pepper to some degree, based on his image moreso, as he really did have experience.

Gailey was likely somewhere in between, an experienced coach with mostly NFL experience and coaching philosophy.

 

[awbuzz]

The new cut block rules are making option offences hard to run. You are no longer allowed to block below the knees outside of the tackle box. So now those smaller A backs cannot swing outside an block defenders with a dive. Before this ruling I'd be ok going back to Monken or Bohannan but I think this new rule will significantly change how option offence run.

Very true and most folks probably we're not aware of the new rule except for a some diehards.

 

[rfjeff9]

He'd drop ATL for Dallas at the drop of a hat.

So drop GT for SMU? I doubt it. Or do you mean Cowboys? Ain’t happening yet. And if he did that means he did well enough at Tech for the Pros to notice and hire.

So sign me up.