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Monetarily we can yes. Culturally, never. NYC is hell right now, but crowds packed the shorelines today to watch the hospital ship arrive. We’re not even willing to socially distance in the middle of a fire.
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Monetarily we can yes. Culturally, never. NYC is hell right now, but crowds packed the shorelines today to watch the hospital ship arrive. We’re not even willing to socially distance in the middle of a fire.
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Looks like I'll be spending time at home. Really wish my wife could cook. I tried to show her where the Kitchen was at but I guess she forgot.
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That is because they were thinking there would be tens of thousands of ventilation machines on it. They don't know what they are used for but they keep hearing it is important.
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Latest Fed estimates for unemployment is 32%.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/cor...-unemployment-rate-of-32percent-fed-says.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/cor...-unemployment-rate-of-32percent-fed-says.html
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We’ve now tested over 1,000,000 Americans.
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Do you know what the % positive rate is of that 1,000,000?
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There are now 5-minute tests that don't require results being sent in to anyone to be analyzed.
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Translated using Google Translate from the original French. Unfortunately not a great start to using drug therapies for COVID 19.
Monday, March 30, 11:35 p.m .: Medicines agency warns of side effects of experimental therapies
France's drug agency ANSM has identified potential dangerous side effects, including deaths, in new treatments for lung disease Covid-19. ANSM director Dominique Martin said that around 30 different undesirable serious side effects had occurred in patients infected with the novel coronavirus and treated with plaquenil or other medications such as Kaletra. There were also three deaths.
Plaquenil contains the active ingredient hydroxychloroquine, which is used in malaria prophylaxis. Kaletra contains a combination of the active substances lopinavir and ritonavir, which are commonly used to treat HIV patients. The side effects have been reported from hospitals. Martin still has to investigate whether they can be attributed to the experimental methods mentioned for the treatment of the lung disease Covid-19. Hopefully the first results will be available by the end of the week. In any case, he warned not to take such medication "under any circumstances"
Monday, March 30, 11:35 p.m .: Medicines agency warns of side effects of experimental therapies
France's drug agency ANSM has identified potential dangerous side effects, including deaths, in new treatments for lung disease Covid-19. ANSM director Dominique Martin said that around 30 different undesirable serious side effects had occurred in patients infected with the novel coronavirus and treated with plaquenil or other medications such as Kaletra. There were also three deaths.
Plaquenil contains the active ingredient hydroxychloroquine, which is used in malaria prophylaxis. Kaletra contains a combination of the active substances lopinavir and ritonavir, which are commonly used to treat HIV patients. The side effects have been reported from hospitals. Martin still has to investigate whether they can be attributed to the experimental methods mentioned for the treatment of the lung disease Covid-19. Hopefully the first results will be available by the end of the week. In any case, he warned not to take such medication "under any circumstances"
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Little pieces of good news.
First, just released study on the mortality rate for COVID-19 has it lower than previous analyses (as it tries to take into account asymptomatic cases).
it puts the mortality rate at 0.66%. Much better than the 1.4% before. But still much higher than the 0.1% for seasonal flu.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/health/coronavirus-lower-death-rate/index.html
Also, social distancing appears to be working in King Co Washington. Study shows the effective reproduction number (avg number of new transmissions from each infected person) going from 2.7 in late February to 1.4 by March 18th.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/health/coronavirus-lower-death-rate/index.html
First, just released study on the mortality rate for COVID-19 has it lower than previous analyses (as it tries to take into account asymptomatic cases).
it puts the mortality rate at 0.66%. Much better than the 1.4% before. But still much higher than the 0.1% for seasonal flu.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/health/coronavirus-lower-death-rate/index.html
Also, social distancing appears to be working in King Co Washington. Study shows the effective reproduction number (avg number of new transmissions from each infected person) going from 2.7 in late February to 1.4 by March 18th.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/health/coronavirus-lower-death-rate/index.html
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The problems with hydrochloriquine have been known for years and are obviously not meant for everyone, including malaria patients for whom the drug was originally intended. There are ways to test the "allergy" to the drug before administering it, but the fact that it SEEMS to be effective against Corona means that it should at least be considered.
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Didn’t I just hear that the FDA approved its use with Z-pack?
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There is a fair amount of hard data out there which suggests strongly that the death rate is well below 0.66%. Data from South Korea, China (outside of Hubei), Taiwan, Singapore (iirc) all run below that figure. Too tired to look up the links right now, but I continue to believe these figures are being somewhat exaggerated based on the simple idea that the experts would much rather estimate high and look like heroes when it comes in lower than vice versa.
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if anyone wants to have fun with numbers, here is the link for the COVID 19 Peak Projection model from the Institute of Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington. This is one of the models being used by the US Health professionals.
The model assumes that every state that hasn't instituted mitigation measures will do so in the next 7 days and that all mitigation measures will remain in effect through May 30th and that the mitigation factors will have their intended effects. if any of those assumptions are incorrect than obviously the numbers would increase.
it has nice interactive charts on Hospital resource use, deaths per day and total deaths for the US and each state. They are updating this daily as they get new data in every day.
Right not the confidence interval is pretty wide with the mean at around 82K deaths through August 4th with a lower bound of around 40K deaths and an upper bound of around 140K deaths. Obviously as they get new data each day the model will update and the lower and upper bounds should start to shrink.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections
there is a link at the bottom to download data and a link at the top that will take you to a page where you can read the research paper.
The model assumes that every state that hasn't instituted mitigation measures will do so in the next 7 days and that all mitigation measures will remain in effect through May 30th and that the mitigation factors will have their intended effects. if any of those assumptions are incorrect than obviously the numbers would increase.
it has nice interactive charts on Hospital resource use, deaths per day and total deaths for the US and each state. They are updating this daily as they get new data in every day.
Right not the confidence interval is pretty wide with the mean at around 82K deaths through August 4th with a lower bound of around 40K deaths and an upper bound of around 140K deaths. Obviously as they get new data each day the model will update and the lower and upper bounds should start to shrink.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections
there is a link at the bottom to download data and a link at the top that will take you to a page where you can read the research paper.
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Not sure, but possibly; I DID hear something earlier, but I wasn't paying close attention. I am sure they test patients to be sure ahead of time that no adverse reaction to the drug should be expected.
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Taiwan apparently has the lowest rates on earth, although the WHO totally ignores them and won't even talk about Taiwan because they (WHO) are sold out to Communist China and do whatever they say.
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@RamblinRed Thanks for sharing the chart projection site. Good info.
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Well we have 160,000 cases. So roughly that’s a 16% positive test.
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The mortality is a very important part of this. However, there are 2 other parts that are aurally as important in my opinion. First, they say it’s 3x as contagious. So even if the mortality rate was the same, if 3x as many people get it, then your deaths will be triple. Furthermore, the rate of hospitalizations are also high.
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Story this morning about how there aren’t enough tests and you have to be very sick to get one. How in the world are we still testing 85% negative? We ran 850,000 tests last week that were negative. None of this makes any sense. We must have a ****-ton of people sick already across the entire country.
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