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South Korea is able to institute very draconian (almost-Chinese level) measures the rest of the world, certainly including us, cannot do. They track people's exact movements via cell phone technology, surveillance cameras, credit card transactions...and hunt people down, publish the identities who have tested positive, and so on. Quarantines are actively monitored by authorities. While it would be nice to slow the growth to a manageable level like they have, there are reasons why none of the rest of the world has. I mean crap, we can't get people to even stop congregating in large groups.

They also benefit from having gone through SARS and MERS before and they dismantled their CDC-equivalent regulations in that regard.
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It may be just an unfounded rumor, but I have heard that the CDC is already tracking cell phones here.
 

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Are we gonna act like the government hasn’t been tracking individual’s movement for decades now? Unless you’re a wanted criminal or in the witness protection program or something, there’s really not much else they do with that data.
 

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Italy and Spain just updated their data from yesterday. Sadly, the bad March continues. Another almost 1,000 dead again in both countries.
 
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Are we gonna act like the government hasn’t been tracking individual’s movement for decades now? Unless you’re a wanted criminal or in the witness protection program or something, there’s really not much else they do with that data.
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Tracking movments and harvesting text messages/phone logs. Switch to an E2E app instead, my preference is Signal, but Apple's iMessage is good as well (assuming we still trust Apple to safeguard the keys)
 
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More on China...https://www.yahoo.com/news/wuhan-residents-dismiss-official-coronavirus-164859600.html
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> Hope this one works too
>Dr Carson has been touting this as promising
Coronavirus Plasma Treatments Begin in Major Texas Hospital System
Houston Methodist Hospital received approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to begin utilizing plasma transfusions to treat COVID-19 patients. The FDA approved the major Houston hospital system as the first academic medical center in the nation to transfuse donated plasma from a recovered COVID-19 patient into a critically ill one.
https://www.breitbart.com/border/20...atments-begin-in-major-texas-hospital-system/
 

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At this point I think the only way to really get our economy back is to get these fast test result systems up and running and massively scaled so we can do 100% testing of the entire population every week. No one is allowed out unless they have a negative test results within the last 7 days. otherwise we are going to get the people who are not sick but contagious. There were way to many people on those cruise ships that tested positive and could infect others but did not have any symptoms.
 

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At this point I think the only way to really get our economy back is to get these fast test result systems up and running and massively scaled so we can do 100% testing of the entire population every week. No one is allowed out unless they have a negative test results within the last 7 days. otherwise we are going to get the people who are not sick but contagious. There were way to many people on those cruise ships that tested positive and could infect others but did not have any symptoms.
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No way we can test 330 million people once a week. No way we can even test 1 million people a week just yet.
 
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No way we can test 330 million people once a week. No way we can even test 1 million people a week just yet.
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At some point, hopefully, there will be some kind of home tests we can do ourselves, which would at least give enough information to know whether we should see a doctor. Something along the line of, relatively speaking, a home BP-checking "machine"
 

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At some point, hopefully, there will be some kind of home tests we can do ourselves, which would at least give enough information to know whether we should see a doctor. Something along the line of, relatively speaking, a home BP-checking "machine"
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That won't make a hill of beans of difference though. They've said for months - like back to early February - if you're not feeling good or you've been in contact with someone else that wasn't feeling good, quarantine yourself for 14 days. That was irrespective if you got a test or not. The only way to change that is to have the test result report back automatically and then do what South Korea does - publish your name on local TV stations, in the newspaper, and on websites. Start tracking your movements through cell phone pings, credit card transactions, and use of surveillance video and use police force to make sure you stay in quarantine. We will never do that. So the #1 thing we need is and will always be for people to follow directions.
 
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That won't make a hill of beans of difference though. They've said for months - like back to early February - if you're not feeling good or you've been in contact with someone else that wasn't feeling good, quarantine yourself for 14 days. That was irrespective if you got a test or not. The only way to change that is to have the test result report back automatically and then do what South Korea does - publish your name on local TV stations, in the newspaper, and on websites. Start tracking your movements through cell phone pings, credit card transactions, and use of surveillance video and use police force to make sure you stay in quarantine. We will never do that. So the #1 thing we need is and will always be for people to follow directions.
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But if people follow the directions to use (and how to use) home testing, then that would IMO keep things on a more personal, and possibly more efficient way of seeing if self-quarantine is enough. Of course, like with everything else, a whole helluva lot of people wouldn't even do that. But it would be better than the system we have now.
 
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for all you DIY'ers trying to sanitize your N95's . It's not so hard
https://www.sages.org/n-95-re-use-instructions/
The above link (interview with the inventor of the N95 mask) says the best way is to rotate masks every 3 to 4 days leaving them to air dry.
He says the 2nd best option is to heat them to 150 degrees for 30 minutes in your oven.
 

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No way we can test 330 million people once a week. No way we can even test 1 million people a week just yet.
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For the kink of money we are spending for stimulus we sure as hell can! The key part of my post was the dependency on the new fast test technology machines that don't require you to send samples off to labs. I would argue for 10's of billions we could do it and save trillions.
 
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