Coronavirus Thread

[mts315]

I absolutely do not think you're being flippant. You're asking genuinely good questions and giving good illustrations for why we are where we are, along with nearly every other country. You can literally go through a drive-thru in Germany and get tested, but they're blowing up - near 0 to 2000 positive tests in 2 weeks. They just announced they expect 70% of the country to get infected by the virus. Its the nature of being free societies. The only way to have prevented what we are going through is to shut down all international travel while the rest of the world runs the virus through. We really can't do that.

I am of the opinion that nothing more than what has been done could have been done, except for the screw up with the test kits. I still don't think many people would have voluntarily gone in for testing in the early stages, perhaps now but a month ago 99% of the population would have and did ignore this and that is when we would have needed to be shutting everything down.

The fact is Covid-19 was here weeks before we knew it was here, and I expect the number infected currently is a multiple of 10 of what we currently have confirmed. The problem is people are stupid and will continue to act stupidly. Just like the Attorney from the example in a previous post. That is a person that should have stayed home or sought medical attention even if it had not been Covid-19. There was a story yesterday of a father and daughter who had been diagnosed already and broke quarantine to go to a school father/daughter function.

 

[jwsavhGT]

@RonJohn & any others who may have questions about possible symptoms...check with your insurance company to see if they offer some type of telemedicine such as Dr. On Demand, etc. Call and ask. If your insurance does not offer this, or if you have no personal insurance, contact your local county health department and ask them.

 

[jwsavhGT]

Posting again:

 

[RonJohn]

@RonJohn & any others who may have questions about possible symptoms...check with your insurance company to see if they offer some type of telemedicine such as Dr. On Demand, etc. Call and ask. If your insurance does not offer this, or if you have no personal insurance, contact your local county health department and ask them.

I am pretty comfortable in knowledge of the symptoms. I have seen the chart that you posted, and have seen that chart in other places. My concern is that the request to self-quarantine doesn't describe well when someone should self-quarantine for two weeks if they have very mild symptoms. Should someone self-quarantine for mild fatigue? That might be a symptom of this disease, but it could also be from stress or diet. I think for the great majority of people, it will be obvious when it is obvious. The problem is that where the cutoff is isn't obvious. If the hype continues, we could have coworkers suspicious of and resentful of people who have other issues. If a person is having marital issues that cause stress and loss of sleep, coworkers might see that they are fatigued, have pale skin, and red eyes. If the coworkers believe that this person has the virus and is potentially spreading it, they might treat them in such a way that will exacerbate his personal situation and health.

Those are the kinds of things that responsible journalists should be concentrating on. It just doesn't help ratings.

 

[GT_EE78]

Well, Savannah is going ahead with St. Patrick's Day celebration. More hand sanitizer stations in the festival area. It seems that hotel occupancy rates are expected to remain on par with historical levels, considering that the 17th is on a Tuesday.

Has that changed yet? Ireland cancelled theirs and The parades to celebrate the traditional Irish holiday have been canceled in Boston, Chicago, Denver, Philadelphia and Seattle https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...patricks-day-parades-canceled-nationally-amid https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...patricks-day-parades-canceled-nationally-amid

 

[jwsavhGT]

Has that changed yet? Ireland cancelled theirs and The parades to celebrate the traditional Irish holiday have been canceled in Boston, Chicago, Denver, Philadelphia and Seattle https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...patricks-day-parades-canceled-nationally-amid https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...patricks-day-parades-canceled-nationally-amid

As of this morning it is still on. Last night the word was city council & the parade committee would make a decision in 24-48 hours.

 

[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

Has that changed yet? Ireland cancelled theirs and The parades to celebrate the traditional Irish holiday have been canceled in Boston, Chicago, Denver, Philadelphia and Seattle https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...patricks-day-parades-canceled-nationally-amid https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...patricks-day-parades-canceled-nationally-amid

The Augusta National is still going ahead with holding the Masters Tournament, and in front of paying attendees. The city of Augusta is still going ahead with plans for auxiliary events held annually relating to the tournament.

 

[GT_EE78]

To show how quickly things change, Italy has about 4,000 cases now. And this article is only like 2 days old.

The media usually isn't telling folks that Milan(outbreak center) has the highest chinese population of any european city and Italy has highest chinese population of any european country. It's a real factor so Italian data shouldn't be used to scale/predict anyone elses trajectory.

 

[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

The media usually isn't telling folks that Milan(outbreak center) has the highest chinese population of any european city and Italy has highest chinese population of any european country. It's a real factor so Italian data shouldn't be used to scale/predict anyone elses trajectory.

I have an Italy/Sicily tour set up for June. As of today (just a few minutes ago), only tours for the month of March have been cancelled by the tour company. My June tour may yet be cancelled, but, unlike some tour companies, travel agencies, and airlines, they guarantee a 100% refund if THEY cancel the tour. Interestingly enough, the man I spoke with from the company with whom I tour, told me that all tours they offer to China and Korea have been cancelled for the next two years. WOW !!!

 

[Deleted member 2897]

WHO officially declared this a pandemic. Not really a surprise there I would say.

 

[YellowJacketFan2018]

The WWE is thinking about filming their Monday Night RAW and Friday Night Smackdown programs in empty arenas because of Coronavirus

 

[Buzzbomb]

ABC cleared out a potential studio audience on S.S. & K. for the 1 pm show.

 

[YellowJacketFan2018]

ABC cleared out a potential studio audience on S.S. & K. for the 1 pm show.

It sounds like Tampa,Florida is going to cancel WWE event Wrestlemania 36 that happens on April 5th

 

[Deleted member 2897]

It sounds like Tampa,Florida is going to cancel WWE event Wrestlemania 36 that happens on April 5th

You should stand outside with your JOHN 3:16 poster anyway.

 

[YellowJacketFan2018]

You should stand outside with your JOHN 3:16 poster anyway.

What? Thanks for being a jerk with that comment

 

[YellowJacketFan2018]

The CBI just called off their Basketball Tournament because of the spread of Coronavirus and i think the NIT and the NCAA Men's and Women's Tournaments wont be far behind with the way things are going.

 

[Deleted member 2897]

What? Thanks for being a jerk with that comment

Sorry, I didn’t mean it that way! I was trying to be silly with all of the signs like that people hold up at WWE events. Sorry!

 

[CuseJacket]

WHO officially declared this a pandemic. Not really a surprise there I would say.

If I understand correctly, before today's announcement the WHO simply couldn't call it a pandemic because 93% of the confirmed cases were focused in 4 countries.

Not saying you're saying this, but I fear people will perceive the word 'pandemic' to mean the situation has gotten materially worse, when it's largely just math catching up to reality.

 

[YellowJacketFan2018]

Sorry, I didn’t mean it that way! I was trying to be silly with all of the signs like that people hold up at WWE events. Sorry!

I understand i'm sorry also

 

[takethepoints]

Arrow’s Nobel prize was in Economics, not science. He spent almost his entire career as an academic. Name one thing he did which resulted in a positive outcome for our nation or any business or cause he supported?

Almost all scientific research doesn't pay off in "a positive outcome for our nation or any business or cause". That's why we need to subsidize it, usually, given the scope of research projects today, through governments. How many "positive outcomes" have resulted from, say, Einstein's explanation of Brownian movement? But it solves a long standing problem in physics and partially confirms molecular theories of the structure of matter; not unimportant findings. I think you are confounding science with engineering. Science tries to come up with theories about how things work; engineering takes those theories and plays around with their limits to attempt to make artifacts that we find useful. Sometimes scientists end up doing engineering projects - Los Alamos comes to mind for most of us - but that usually isn't the case. They leave it to the engineers to figure out how or, even, if their theories will be useful. Just as well. A scientists idea of an engineering project is to do more research.

Here's an overview of Arrow's contributions:

https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/full/10.1146/annurev-economics-080218-030323#_i66

A whole lot of public policy (cap and trade schemes, for instance) are wrapped up in his thought. And, yes, I think some of the maths are incomprehensible too.