Collins - Expectations and time to get things right?

stech81

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I think you can do that your first year or two, as the narrative is that you're playing with the last guy's players. After a couple of years, you have to win or the bloom starts to come off the rose. Kirby has turned that corner and now, barring some disaster, has a self-sustaining model. We have to get to that point as well.
An interesting fact to look at and think about ( Kirby's first 3 years at uga 32-10 and 2 eastern division champs) and ( Richt's first 3 years at uga 32-8 and 2 eastern division champs )
 

A Love Supreme

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I can't wait for someone to create another thread on this topic again in a few months.
Anyways, Im expecting the same graduation rates of CPJ and 7-8 wins per year.
 

MaconBacon IM88

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While I think we will be able to compete at the same level we have for the last few years (.500ish) I think there are a lot of other indicators you can look at early on beyond W/L (the schedule gets tougher) to discern if Collins is making progress in his first two years...

— Is there an uptick in recruiting
Are you seeing notable changes in The GT football/brand? are people talking about GT in a different light
Are we getting more positive media coverage
Is GT more present in our own city
—Can he sway a few big time transfers? And effectively sell his vision immediately
is attendance/support up
are there improvements to the in game experience for fans (I have a feeling he will have input here)
—Do D/ST see immediate improvements

Agree - but I feel like GTAA / AD are on the line to make headway with the items in bold. We have a Mrtkng/Media/PR team that needs to step up bigly.
 

Whiskey_Clear

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I don’t think .500 ballpark the next two years is unrealistic. If so CGC will disappoint many..including himself likely. Exceeds it and most will be happy depending on by how much. Falls short and most will deplore the results.
 

first&ten

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All three seasons are key......if by chance he craps the bed in '19 & '20 (I don't expect him to, but you never know) He would have to have a phenomenal year in 2021 to keep the job. He stays at or above .500 the first two years and shows improvement in year three.....he will be okay.
Doesn't he have a 7 yr contract, at least on the surface?
 

alagold

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We aren't talent depleted. We have the players to win now, especially if your schtick is defense anyways. He'll get minimum 4 years here regardless but my expectation every year stays at 8 wins.

Jeff,
I like your confidence but are you aware the last 4 classes are ranked about to a 50 avg nationally with this one unlikely to be better. --and that is not counting the drop-outs and not accounting for the players fitted for PJs system.
We have some talent but a LOT of need is apparent esp at certain positions. (we don't even know if we have a QB that can pass in P5 games is an example.).
 

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Huge difference between 8 and 10. 10 probably means ACC title or title game, 8 probably means beating Kentucky in a meaningless bowl game.

I think the minimum should be 8 each year, that's just me.

Didn’t Kentucky just beat Penn State in a New Year’s Day bowl game?

These days, it might take 10 wins to play Kentucky in a meaningless bowl game ;)


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iceeater1969

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I ll leave this here for reference and a does of reality for 19.

Gt roster 2019 -20
DL
2 JR W SOME EXPERIENCE.
3 SOPH A LITTLE EXPIERENCE
7 FRESHMAN W NONE
3 INCOMING FRESHMAN.

ONLY 2 UPPERCLASSMEN = THE CUPBOARD IS BARE.

THIS PLUS A NEW DEFENSE MAKES
50% SOUNDS GOOD.

Come on defensive scheme!!!
 

Boaty1

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WTH is up with these Tech fans wanting to run down the programs ability every time somebody gets excited about what’s going on? I don’t know exactly who Dan Wolken is but I believe he is a national guy saying we may be on the verge of recruiting top 15 classes and some dope named Eric who is supposed to be a Tech fan gets on there and says it’s not likely. Why in the world do our supposed fans do this? Let the hype run wild. It’s great for the program. I get so confused and frustrated by the amount of tech fans that think like this.
 
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