Coaches on the Hot Seat

[kg01]

Im all set with Keno Davis after his stop at Providence. Im really not sold on Pitino either, even though i had him on my list. But I would be ok taking a flyer on him

Yeah, Pitino's more of a 'name' than anything. Kinda hope his name helps him recruit. Then hope he actually develops into a good coach. On Davis, he was a hot name when he was hired then fizzed out at Prov. I picked him on the hope that his stop at C. Mich (which is going quite well) shows he's learned and has improved.

Aaaaand @dtm1997 just gave me a heart attack. I read his 'Hell No' list from the bottom not realizing what the list was.

 

[AE 87]

Yeah, Pitino's more of a 'name' than anything. Kinda hope his name helps him recruit. Then hope he actually develops into a good coach. On Davis, he was a hot name when he was hired then fizzed out at Prov. I picked him on the hope that his stop at C. Mich (which is going quite well) shows he's learned and has improved.

Aaaaand @dtm1997 just gave me a heart attack. I read his 'Hell No' list from the bottom not realizing what the list was.

LOL, I had the same exact reaction to @dtm1997 's list. I guess I'm not the only one skimming quickly through posts during lunch.

 

[orientalnc]

An opening list in need of slimming down...

Swing for the fences: Jay Wright, Villanova

Proven Winner:
Bob McKillop, Davidson
Steve Prohm, Murray State
Archie Miller, Dayton
Chris Mack, Xavier

Maybe, maybe not:
Tommy Amaker, Harvard
Mike Rhoades, Rice (mainly because he's a Shaka disciple)
Bob Huffman, Mercer
Ron Hunter, GA State
Tim Cluess, Iona

Just for kicks, but unlikely:
Tom Crean, Indiana
Tim Miles, Nebraska
Lon Kruger, Oklahoma

Up & Comer:
Will Wade, Chattanooga

Hell No:
Josh Pastner, Memphis
Frank Haith, Tulsa
Chris Mooney, Richmond
Steve Lavin, St. John's
Oliver Purnell, DePaul
Kevin Willard, Seton Hall
Any other Coach K Disciple

I like Wright, but would also be happy with Marshall.

Now, a more realistic dream is someone from your next two lists. I am not sure GT fans could stomach another Dayton coach, so I am striking Miller from my list. Amaker is intriguing, but K will retire someday (maybe soon) and their will be a frantic rush to get a former player to take that job. Dawkins might be the favorite, but Amaker will also be on their list. He's gone if he gets that offer.

 

[dtm1997]

I would just as soon not see any K disciple, but if any, then Amaker. He's coaching successfully at a high academic school and has shown an ability to recruit.

While I think Miller can be successful at GT, I would understand if people would prefer going back to the well on a Dayton coach.

Personally, I'd love to pull a Larranaga and hire McKillop. Proven winner, good guard-oriented offensive flow, high academic school.

 

[Ggee87]

Out of those lists I say we go with a guy that's a proven winner that's shown he can recruit in less than ideal situations. Whoever that person is, I will be happy with them. Don't need a defense and rebound first coach. Those are things that take effort and want to. Not much coaching is gonna really make that better. I say if we have a good offensive coach and hire a defensive assistant to preach hustle, boxing out, and how to get through screens we'd be setting ourselves up in a good position to get to middle of the pack in the ACC relatively soon.

 

[RamblinRed]

Randy Bennett has 0 chance of being hired given he was found guilty of recruiting violations by the NCAA a couple of seasons ago. The penalties included a 5 game suspension for Bennett, no off campus recruiting by Bennett for 1 yr, loss of 2 scholarships and 4 yrs of probation for St. Mary's.

 

[Peacone36]

Randy Bennett has 0 chance of being hired given he was found guilty of recruiting violations by the NCAA a couple of seasons ago. The penalties included a 5 game suspension for Bennett, no off campus recruiting by Bennett for 1 yr, loss of 2 scholarships and 4 yrs of probation for St. Mary's.

I did not know that. Dang.

 

[dtm1997]

Add Johnny Jones & Eric Musselman of LSU to my Hell No list

ETA: and keep Josh Pastner there.

ETA2: And keep Dino Gaudio the eff outta here. He wasn't so bad at Wake, but he's such a terrible announcer that there's no way I want him here.

 

[Peacone36]

Just took UK to the wire. Lost it in the last 2 minutes. Should fit right in.

 

[dtm1997]

Just took UK to the wire. Lost it in the last 2 minutes. Should fit right in.

Definitely fit right in. Down 2 with 6.6sec and drew up an inept final play to win instead of tie and get 5 more minutes of life.

 

[dtm1997]

Doubt Tim Miles gets moved to the Hell No list, but this is not a great comment...

 

[Connell62]

Taking a step back for a moment, say that BG was relieved the day after the ACC tournament, what does the timeline of a coaching change look like?

When does the coaching search really heat up? If Bobinski is wise, then he has already began formulating his list, but when is the earliest that interviews would start?

When would a decision likely be made and a new coach in place? When would the staff be finalized?

 

[dtm1997]

Taking a step back for a moment, say that BG was relieved the day after the ACC tournament, what does the timeline of a coaching change look like?

When does the coaching search really heat up? If Bobinski is wise, then he has already began formulating his list, but when is the earliest that interviews would start?

When would a decision likely be made and a new coach in place? When would the staff be finalized?

Bobinski would likely contact his top top choices immediately through back channels, as you'd hope they were NCAA tournament bound. If there's interest, it would heat up immediately after said choice sees their run end. Typically, the Final Four, which coincides with the coaches convention is when things heat up & are finalized. We'd need someone in place, with at least 1 assistant in tow, by mid-April, so they can hit the AAU live period that begins around then.

It would be interesting to not hire all assistants until the live periods are over. Herrion was a late hire, but because he wasn't associated with a program, he was able to go to as many AAU events as he wanted to and coached in one. Could only do that because he didn't have a job at the time.

 

[kg01]

Doubt Tim Miles gets moved to the Hell No list, but this is not a great comment...

In my research(sic), I'm finding there are quite a few coaches that struggle to generate a lot of offense. Seems there's a lot of guys in the 'slow it down and grind it out' camp. I'm all for a coach that preaches a free-flowing system (for lack of a more intelligent phrase).

Not necessarily run-n-gun but I can't stand to see a team essentially walk it up, look at the coach for a play, then try to run said play. All the while the defense, which has presumably been coached-up on what you like to run, just sits and gets ready for you. Kinda tired of our best play being the offensive rebound.

Lastly, I think you're 'Hell No' list is quickly becoming a 'thing' (in a good way) on the site.

 

[Peacone36]

Add Johnny Jones & Eric Musselman of LSU to my Hell No list

ETA: and keep Josh Pastner there.

ETA2: And keep Dino Gaudio the eff outta here. He wasn't so bad at Wake, but he's such a terrible announcer that there's no way I want him here.

HOwever if Pastner wants to do a year of Associate Head coach and recruiting coordinator......that wouldnt be bad.

 

[Peacone36]

my Hell No list would be

Andy Enfield
Lorenzo Romar
Tubby Smith
Dave Rice


My acceptable but last resort name would be: Mike (or Mark?) Lonergan at GW. I cant remember the first name, one in the lead singer from the 90s Grunge band teh Screaming Trees and the other is the coach of the Colonials. Did decent at Vermont after Brennan left, and now has GW playing well 2 years in a row in a tough A-10

 

[dtm1997]

my Hell No list would be

Andy Enfield
Lorenzo Romar
Tubby Smith
Dave Rice


My acceptable but last resort name would be: Mike (or Mark?) Lonergan at GW. I cant remember the first name, one in the lead singer from the 90s Grunge band teh Screaming Trees and the other is the coach of the Colonials. Did decent at Vermont after Brennan left, and now has GW playing well 2 years in a row in a tough A-10

Seconded

 

[GTRX7]

What about Kenny Payne, the assistant from Kentucky? I know he doesn't have head coaching experience but he's been an assistant for 10 years at both Oregon and now Kentucky. Calipari has specifically mentioned his ability to develop players as well as his in game coaching skills. Plus, he's only 48 years old and has strong southern ties. I'm not sure about his recruiting skills.

Speaking of Calipari assistants, I actually wanted us to look at Orlando Antigua last time around. I think he is a better recruiter than Kenny Payne, and a guy that I think Cal saw as the next one ready for a head coaching spot. Antigua was hired by USF this year and is off to a rough start. I don't know any specifics, and it is tough to judge after two-thirds of one year, but Tech may not be the place to take a risk on an unproven assistant.

 

[RamblinRed]

If Gregory is relieved I would expect the announcement to come on the Monday following the ACC Tournament. It is generally considered bad form to fire coaches during the tournament as it takes the focus away from the Tourney.
Firing's usually start in earnest the Monday following.

Realistically, by that time the AD should already have a short list. You start contacting agents of coaches by that week to gauge interest, adjust your list and start interviews once coaches are done with their season.

 

[dtm1997]