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[Bigb]

Plus what happens to our team? If he leaves so can every player. They are free to go to any school and play right away.

Completely false.

 

[RamblinRed]

The time is almost perfect

Next years starting 5

Jorgy
Tadric
MGH
Mitchell
Jacobs

Bench of Lammers Heath and Q

That is an 8 win ACCG team IMHO, easily an NIT team. Plus you have 5-6 scholarships to bring in a monster class. The job becomes a huge rebuild and is far less appealing following the 2015-16 season

This is very well stated. Frankly a good coach has that team in the NCAA. That's 3 4* players (MGH, Jacobs, Jackson) and 2 high 3*. A couple of guys that can score. A PG that is going to be very good as he matures. With a decent bench. And as you said, you also have alot of schollies to give out. That from a coaching attraction standpoint is a really nice story to sell as an AD. You as a new coach can come in and win in year 1 with what's here and get the fanbase on your side and you can recruit alot of players quickly so you can get your guys into the program. Oh and your in the ACC and Atlanta. The fact that so many of the losses are close helps as well as any coach who believes in himself is going to look at that and say "my team is not going to go 0-8 in games that were 1 possession with a minute to play."

Think about this. GT is 0-8 in ACC Games that were 3 pts or less with a minute to play - 3 GT led, 2 were tied, 3 GT trailed. They went 0-8. Do you know what those odds are like. Say you go 4-4 instead of 0-8. Now you are 16-12, 7-8 and fighting for the NIT. That is where we should be.
Lost 2 more where they were down 4 with a minute to play. So that's 10 ACC games where it was 4 pts or less with a minute to play and you lost all of them.

 

[Andewa]

How many years are left on CPH's buyout?

How many years are left on CBG's contract?

 

[BabyJacket1990]

Bottom line is that gregory hasn't rexruited well enough to save his job.

 

[IronJacket7]

Actually CBG hasn't coached or recruited well enough to save his job... IMO

 

[GTRX7]

Whaaaaat?

CPJ has never had a losing conference record! I should hope to heck not considering we play in the ACC.

"Beat UGA". Hell, CBG is UNDEAFEATED vs uga.

I cannot possibly roll my eyes hard enough at this post. The ACC is not the SEC in football, but neither is it the sisters of the poor. CPJ's winning ACC record and finishing either first or second in the division nearly every year is very meaningful. Prior to last year, he had also played in 2 ACC title games, won one, and made an orange bowl.

Gregory's ACC record has been embarrassing. Yes, as you point out, he has had one nice ACC win per season. Hooray. Is one decent win a year what we aspire to now? What is his combined record against the dregs of the ACC in teams like Clemson, Va Tech, FSU, Wake... Not a winning one, I can tell you that.

Yes, CPJ's record against UGA is not good enough, and he deserved fair criticism for losing too many of those close games. But UGA in basketball is not UGA in football. Having won four in a row over those guys is indeed Gregory's best accomplishment, but it is not like he was knocking off top 10 or even relevant teams.

You lose credibility by comparing CBG's record to CPJ's in my opinion.

 

[IronJacket7]

What's really sad is if CBG were able to convince JB to come to GT it would possibly save his job due to JB being a program changing player.
I want a coach that can win with whatever talent he is given.

 

[IronJacket7]

Bobby Cremins (ACC) (1981–2000)
1981–82 Cremins 10–16 3–11 8th
1982–83 Cremins 13–15 4–10 6th
1983–84 Cremins 18–11 6–8 T-5th NIT
1984–85 Cremins 27–8 9–5 T-1st NCAA Regional Final
1985–86 Cremins 27–7 11–3 2nd NCAA Regional Semifinal
1986–87 Cremins 16–13 7–7 5th NCAA First Round
1987–88 Cremins 22–10 8–6 4th NCAA Second Round
1988–89 Cremins 20–12 8–6 5th NCAA First Round
1989–90 Cremins 28–7 8–6 T-3rd NCAA National Semifinal
1990–91 Cremins 17–13 6–8 T-5th NCAA Second Round
1991–92 Cremins 23–12 8–8 T-4th NCAA Regional Semifinal
1992–93 Cremins 19–11 8–8 6th NCAA First Round
1993–94 Cremins 16–13 7–9 6th NIT
1994–95 Cremins 18–12 8–8 5th
1995–96 Cremins 24–12 13–3 1st NCAA Regional Semifinal
1996–97 Cremins 9–18 3–13 9th
1997–98 Cremins 19–14 6–10 6th NIT
1998–99 Cremins 15–16 6–10 T-5th NIT
1999–00 Cremins 13–17 5–11 8th

Paul Hewitt (ACC) (2000–2011)
2000–01 Hewitt 17–13 8–8 5th NCAA First Round
2001–02 Hewitt 15–16 7–9 T-5th
2002–03 Hewitt 16–15 7–9 5th NIT
2003–04 Hewitt 28–10 9–7 T-4th NCAA National Semifinals
2004–05 Hewitt 20–12 8–8 T-4th NCAA Second Round
2005–06 Hewitt 11–17 4–12 11th
2006–07 Hewitt 20–12 8–8 T-6th NCAA First Round
2007–08 Hewitt 15–17 7–9 T-7th
2008–09 Hewitt 12–19 2–14 12th
2009–10 Hewitt 23–13 7–9 7th NCAA Second Round
2010–11 Hewitt 13–18 5–11 T-10th

Brian Gregory (ACC) (2011–present)
2011–12 Gregory 11–20 4–12 T-11th
2012–13 Gregory 16–15 6–12 T-9th
2013–14 Gregory 16–17 6–12 T-11th
2014–15 Gregory 12-16 (I've seen enough)

 

[BabyJacket1990]

What's really sad is if CBG were able to convince JB to come to GT it would possibly save his job due to JB being a program changing player.
I want a coach that can win with whatever talent he is given.

I don't see JB coming to tech to play for CBG. I hate to critize a GT coach right after a loss but as I posted before , it's the way we're losing that makes this tough. If was landing some talent 2 years ago, I would argue that he needed a little more time. We have lost close games this season and that is on the coaches.

 

[kg01]

I'm shocked there are still people thinking it's somehow unfair to let CBG go. It's been long enough to know what we have (and don't have) in CBG.

We're not a mid-major. We should compete for the postseason at least 2 of every 4 years. That's the floor IMO. Graduating kids should be a given. Our standards are higher than that. (I'm certainly not diminishing that end of things.)

 

[kg01]

Brian Gregory (ACC) (2011–present)
2011–12 Gregory 11–20 4–12 T-11th
2012–13 Gregory 16–15 6–12 T-9th
2013–14 Gregory 16–17 6–12 T-11th
2014–15 Gregory 12-16 (I've seen enough)

Well, in his defense, the ACC wins have increased right?

 

[BabyJacket1990]

Well, in his defense, the ACC wins have increased right?

Not this year lol

 

[sidewalkGTfan]

At this point, I think it is crazy to get rid of Coach Gregory. He has two new staff coaches who have exceptional credentials. One played NBA with success and has coached elsewhere plus the other was a head coach. They started new during this season and they need to gel together. They have not even had time as coaches to put their game together. Plus what happens to our team? If he leaves so can every player. They are free to go to any school and play right away. If they transfer and the next coach takes three years to get a team to your liking, are you going to fire him too? We have really a balanced team and coaching staff for next year with experience and ability. Where we lost of two or three points this year, next years team we will win by 5 points and more. At this stage in their careers, one year difference makes a championship. Think about this too. This is an academic institution. His team is doing well academically which is important. He is a proven coach and needs backing.

That's 100% your opinion and based off of 0% fact. He's going to be fired and deservedly so.

 

[IronJacket7]

I bet Cremins can't sleep at night watching this debauchery.

 

[collegeballfan]

Bobby Cremins (ACC) (1981–2000)
1981–82 Cremins 10–16 3–11 8th
1982–83 Cremins 13–15 4–10 6th
1983–84 Cremins 18–11 6–8 T-5th NIT
1984–85 Cremins 27–8 9–5 T-1st NCAA Regional Final
1985–86 Cremins 27–7 11–3 2nd NCAA Regional Semifinal
1986–87 Cremins 16–13 7–7 5th NCAA First Round
1987–88 Cremins 22–10 8–6 4th NCAA Second Round
1988–89 Cremins 20–12 8–6 5th NCAA First Round
1989–90 Cremins 28–7 8–6 T-3rd NCAA National Semifinal
1990–91 Cremins 17–13 6–8 T-5th NCAA Second Round
1991–92 Cremins 23–12 8–8 T-4th NCAA Regional Semifinal
1992–93 Cremins 19–11 8–8 6th NCAA First Round
1993–94 Cremins 16–13 7–9 6th NIT
1994–95 Cremins 18–12 8–8 5th
1995–96 Cremins 24–12 13–3 1st NCAA Regional Semifinal
1996–97 Cremins 9–18 3–13 9th
1997–98 Cremins 19–14 6–10 6th NIT
1998–99 Cremins 15–16 6–10 T-5th NIT
1999–00 Cremins 13–17 5–11 8th

Paul Hewitt (ACC) (2000–2011)
2000–01 Hewitt 17–13 8–8 5th NCAA First Round
2001–02 Hewitt 15–16 7–9 T-5th
2002–03 Hewitt 16–15 7–9 5th NIT
2003–04 Hewitt 28–10 9–7 T-4th NCAA National Semifinals
2004–05 Hewitt 20–12 8–8 T-4th NCAA Second Round
2005–06 Hewitt 11–17 4–12 11th
2006–07 Hewitt 20–12 8–8 T-6th NCAA First Round
2007–08 Hewitt 15–17 7–9 T-7th
2008–09 Hewitt 12–19 2–14 12th
2009–10 Hewitt 23–13 7–9 7th NCAA Second Round
2010–11 Hewitt 13–18 5–11 T-10th

Brian Gregory (ACC) (2011–present)
2011–12 Gregory 11–20 4–12 T-11th
2012–13 Gregory 16–15 6–12 T-9th
2013–14 Gregory 16–17 6–12 T-11th
2014–15 Gregory 12-16 (I've seen enough)

Using these numbers:
The win - loss in conference games for GT from 1981 through 2011 is 206 - 254.
GT had a winning conference record in the 30 Cremins/Hewitt years only 7 times.
Cremins had a winning conference record only 6 of 19 seasons.

I have no idea how Boninski will factor these numbers into his decision.

 

[Peacone36]

I often wonder how many people are Box Score Brainiacs and how many actually watch the games.

If you watch how we are losing these games i dont see how you can possibly question a move on our bench especially given the type of situation our new coach can walk into. If we swing and miss in the 2016 recruiting class with CBG than the depths of Fear and Loathing in Atlanta will be at an all time high.

And for the love of all that is holy can we stop with the Coach K year 4 talk. You are comparing CBG to THE GREATEST COACH/RECRUITER in the history of college basketball. This guy had a winning record at Army!!!

 

[kg01]

If you watch how we are losing these games i dont see how you can possibly question a move on our bench especially given the type of situation our new coach can walk into.

This has been my issue all along. The W/L record is secondary. It's how we've been losing these past few years that's troublesome.

 

[Peacone36]

This has been my issue all along. The W/L record is secondary. It's how we've been losing these past few years that's troublesome.

To have Cox and Mitchell on the floor together is usually not good (credit to DTM for seeing it early in the non conference schedule) but to have them on the floor when Louisville is pressing and we have to make a play is so unforgivable i can barely contain myself. Even this late in the year with all that has happened i was standing in my living room ready to Gronk slam my remote.

 

[sidewalkGTfan]

This has been my issue all along. The W/L record is secondary. It's how we've been losing these past few years that's troublesome.

By my count, in the last 4 seasons, we are 12-24 by games decided by 5 points or less or in OT. 6 of those 12 wins came last season. If there's one thing CBG has proven, his teams suck in crunch time.

 

[orientalnc]

At the beginning of this season I predicted we would be slightly weaker on defense because of Miller's graduation. But I was very concerned about where points could come from. Carter, Miller, Holsey averaged almost 30 ppg last year. I wondered whether it was possible Cox, Mitchell, Sampson could do the same. The answer is, they did not, averaging 24 ppg.

Outside, Golden, MGH, Bolden, Stacey and Q averaged almost 40 ppg. I looked at our guards and suggested there was no way we would get that much production without having legit players down low. That has turned out to be wrong, as the quintet of guards, including MGH, have matched that total almost exactly.

If you look at the game results you see that we have scored exactly the same number of points as our opposition for the entire season. In ACC play, we are down 3 points per game. The six ppg we lost with our post guys is the difference in what we have and a possible NCAA team. It turns out the loss of Carter was huge.