Arrests coming due to college bball kickbacks

[deeeznutz]

Wow

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2017/10/5/16431346/louisville-adidas-rick-pitino

I don’t think this is as crazy as it seems...this is probably just how Pitino’s contract is scheduled to be paid. School chips in $250K, with the rest of the couple million total paid by various apparel companies, boosters, etc. On the surface though, this just looks really bad.

 

[deeeznutz]

Bet Jordan Nwora wishes that he had chosen GT now!

Any chance that they give their entire roster an opportunity to transfer out due to improprieties that occurred prior to their arrival?

Ha, wishful thinking, I know!

While not a bad idea, there are going to be a lot of players ruled ineligible over this scandal. I have a feeling most schools will steer clear of their recruits until they’re cleared.

 

[kg01]

Bet Jordan Nwora wishes that he had chosen GT now!

Any chance that they give their entire roster an opportunity to transfer out due to improprieties that occurred prior to their arrival?

Ha, wishful thinking, I know!

His bank account probably doesn't wish he'd chosen GT.

... boom.

 

[Peacone36]

His bank account probably doesn't wish he'd chosen GT.

... boom.

 

[GTRX7]

What UK and IN schools have said about being contacted by FBI:

http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...gation-indiana-university-kentucky/731441001/

 

[Jumpman]

 

[awbuzz]

Those classes an all the hokem was designed for the AA to keep players eligible. How can they say "It's not necessarily an athletic thing"? BS!!!

 

[Jumpman]

Those classes an all the hokem was designed for the AA to keep players eligible. How can they say "It's not necessarily an athletic thing"? BS!!!

It was only an athletics thing. Cheaters gonna cheat.

 

[Jumpman]

http://kentuckysportsradio.com/bask...questions-on-college-basketballs-fbi-scandal/

 

[orientalnc]

This is a type of journalism that would never be published prior to the internet. It is boosterism. He is putting a pro-Louisville spin on every possibility. I understand why. His readership is almost 100% Kentuckians and they want to hear some good news right now.

But, it irritates me when I read that the NCAA is powerless to end the one and dones until the NBA until it removes the requirement that kids have to be one year removed from high school before they are eligible. The NCAA could vote this week to end one and dones by removing freshmen eligibility.

The old rule had a lot going for it. It gave the kids another year to mature both physically and emotionally before playing varsity games. It allowed them to adjust to what was expected to be four years of college and bank some credits. It gave their heads, swollen from the adulation they received in high school, time to shrink back to normal size. It gave them another year, practicing against older guys, to reset their expectations about whether they were good enough to forgo a college degree in favor of professional basketball. The NCAA would need to allow extra scholarships in that system, plus a transition period. But it would not be a huge burden. This would be their redshirt year, which most college freshmen athletes already enjoy at that age.

The biggest plus from removing freshman eligibility would be the partial neutering of the AAU circuit. Not completely, because some kids would continue AAU ball for the year after high school and simply skip college basketball. I think it would also make high school basketball coaches more important to the kids.

 

[GTRX7]

This is a type of journalism that would never be published prior to the internet. It is boosterism. He is putting a pro-Louisville spin on every possibility. I understand why. His readership is almost 100% Kentuckians and they want to hear some good news right now.

But, it irritates me when I read that the NCAA is powerless to end the one and dones until the NBA until it removes the requirement that kids have to be one year removed from high school before they are eligible. The NCAA could vote this week to end one and dones by removing freshmen eligibility.

The old rule had a lot going for it. It gave the kids another year to mature both physically and emotionally before playing varsity games. It allowed them to adjust to what was expected to be four years of college and bank some credits. It gave their heads, swollen from the adulation they received in high school, time to shrink back to normal size. It gave them another year, practicing against older guys, to reset their expectations about whether they were good enough to forgo a college degree in favor of professional basketball. The NCAA would need to allow extra scholarships in that system, plus a transition period. But it would not be a huge burden. This would be their redshirt year, which most college freshmen athletes already enjoy at that age.

The biggest plus from removing freshman eligibility would be the partial neutering of the AAU circuit. Not completely, because some kids would continue AAU ball for the year after high school and simply skip college basketball. I think it would also make high school basketball coaches more important to the kids.

There may be a lot of things going on there, but a pro-Louisville spin ain’t it. That website does virtually nothing but troll UL mercilessly. This particular writer, Aaron Torres, is a guy from Connecticut that just joined the site within the last couple months after leaving as a senior writer for Fox Sports. He has no UL (or state of Kentucky) bias, I think he is just trying to be realistic. I agree with him that no death penalty will come given Pitino’s firing, especially if they stay the course with firing Jurich.

 

[orientalnc]

There may be a lot of things going on there, but a pro-Louisville spin ain’t it. That website does virtually nothing but troll UL mercilessly. This particular writer, Aaron Torres, is a guy from Connecticut that just joined the site within the last couple months after leaving as a senior writer for Fox Sports. He has no UL (or state of Kentucky) bias, I think he is just trying to be realistic. I agree with him that no death penalty will come given Pitino’s firing, especially if they stay the course with firing Jurich.

I don't completely agree with you, but I see your point. I think a more realistic view is that UL has to get hammered in a significant way or the NCAA is toast. At some point CBS is going to tell the NCAA that the tournament is not as attractive a it once was, but college basketball is second only to football in popularity. That is not going to change if the NCAA holds these schools responsible for the mess college basketball is in right now.

 

[GTRX7]

I don't completely agree with you, but I see your point. I think a more realistic view is that UL has to get hammered in a significant way or the NCAA is toast. At some point CBS is going to tell the NCAA that the tournament is not as attractive a it once was, but college basketball is second only to football in popularity. That is not going to change if the NCAA holds these schools responsible for the mess college basketball is in right now.

Fair enough. I agree they have to get hammered for sure. They already are losing their title and final four banners from the stripper scandal, now they need significant scholarship and post-season restrictions. (And of course to clean house on their own to be able to start clean.) I actually think Jurich is more of a global problem over there than Pitino was. Unlike Tech, UL athletics completely dominates the power structure in that university over academics. Either Jurich or the new president will be gone. Just depends who wins the power battle.

 

[dtm1997]

Fair enough. I agree they have to get hammered for sure. They already are losing their title and final four banners from the stripper scandal, now they need significant scholarship and post-season restrictions. (And of course to clean house on their own to be able to start clean.) I actually think Jurich is more of a global problem over there than Pitino was. Unlike Tech, UL athletics completely dominates the power structure in that university over academics. Either Jurich or the new president will be gone. Just depends who wins the power battle.

Jurich is already gone. I doubt he comes back from leave.

 

[orientalnc]

Jurich is already gone. I doubt he comes back from leave.

The admin is getting pressure from big donors to keep him. It's anyone's guess if that pressure matters to the admin, but it may.

 

[GTRX7]

Rumor was that UL was going to keep Jurich, but not Pitino. However, when Jurich refused to fire Pitino, the president moved to fire both. (LINK) Jurich cannot officially be fired for a couple of weeks when the board meets next (his contract said that he could not be fired without being given at least 30 days of paid leave, even with cause!) Since then, a lot of big time donors have stepped up a campaign to keep him.



Now, all that said, the Louisville Courier Journal posted some new articles in the last few days about the financial boondoggles that both Jurich and Pitino were getting with their contracts. Last year, Jurich made $5.3 million, which is more than twice as much as any other athletic director in the country! LINK Given all of this, I agree that there is no way they can keep him. (That said, I didn't think there was any way that UL would keep Pitino after stripper-gate, so who knows. Like I said, it will either be Jurich or the new president, they won't keep both.)

 

[Techster]

Sounds like Jurich and Pitino have a suicide pact.

In other news, Bobby Petrino's buyout gets heavily lowered if Jurich is fired. Which means...Tennessee should go after him.

 

[RonJohn]

Rumor was that UL was going to keep Jurich, but not Pitino. However, when Jurich refused to fire Pitino, the president moved to fire both. (LINK) Jurich cannot officially be fired for a couple of weeks when the board meets next (his contract said that he could not be fired without being given at least 30 days of paid leave, even with cause!) Since then, a lot of big time donors have stepped up a campaign to keep him.



Now, all that said, the Louisville Courier Journal posted some new articles in the last few days about the financial boondoggles that both Jurich and Pitino were getting with their contracts. Last year, Jurich made $5.3 million, which is more than twice as much as any other athletic director in the country! LINK Given all of this, I agree that there is no way they can keep him. (That said, I didn't think there was any way that UL would keep Pitino after stripper-gate, so who knows. Like I said, it will either be Jurich or the new president, they won't keep both.)

I think I would modify they letter as follows:

• We are in the ACC because Adidas paid players
• We have a top football program possibly because Adidas paid players
• We have a top Men's basketball program because Adidas paid players
• We are on probation because of Pitino and Jurich
• We are likely to face very severe penalties from the NCAA because of Pitino and Jurich

It will be very telling what the priorities of the University of Louisville are. If the president is forced out and Jurich remains, that will mean that athletics are more important to the University(sic) than integrity and academics. I tend to believe that athletics will win out. After all this is a school that has the most sleazy football coach and had the most sleazy basketball coach.

 

[kg01]

Sounds like Jurich's real name is Karen Sypher.

In other news, Bobby Petrino's buyout gets heavily lowered if Jurich is fired. Which means...Tennessee should go after him.

Fixed. Too far?

Agree on Petrino. Surely, he gone if they give him a sliver to squirm out of. 'Specially since Lamar Jackson probably gone too.

 

[Peacone36]

Fixed. Too far?

Agree on Petrino. Surely, he gone if they give him a sliver to squirm out of. 'Specially since Lamar Jackson probably gone too.