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(B)oth UNC and the ACC need and deserve a strong football program in Chapel Hill.
Why?
(B)oth UNC and the ACC need and deserve a strong football program in Chapel Hill.
Because it is, despite some of the crummiest management and increasing political interference possible, still a wonderful public university still providing a quality education for a still reasonable cost (yes, it is a relative judgment) and because it is possible to be both a quality educational center and a football power without selling out ... and I know that has to be proved given past events. Regardless, it should not be left to the Miamis and FSUs of this world to contest a growing Clemson center of gravity. Not to mention that noise coming from Pitt and Syracuse. Syracuse is going to be particularly good in 2-3 years when it has finished implementing the Clemson model. A strong UNC football program resonates to the benefit of the ACC itself. I think they can be smug, and I don't mind an occasional slapdown, but they need to be good.Why?
Because it is, despite some of the crummiest management and increasing political interference possible, still a wonderful public university still providing a quality education for a still reasonable cost (yes, it is a relative judgment) and because it is possible to be both a quality educational center and a football power without selling out ... and I know that has to be proved given past events. Regardless, it should not be left to the Miamis and FSUs of this world to contest a growing Clemson center of gravity. Not to mention that noise coming from Pitt and Syracuse. Syracuse is going to be particularly good in 2-3 years when it has finished implementing the Clemson model. A strong UNC football program resonates to the benefit of the ACC itself. I think they can be smug, and I don't mind an occasional slapdown, but they need to be good.
UFC brawl? Nah, just classy Miami & fsu fans.
Because it is, despite some of the crummiest management and increasing political interference possible, still a wonderful public university still providing a quality education for a still reasonable cost (yes, it is a relative judgment) and because it is possible to be both a quality educational center and a football power without selling out ... and I know that has to be proved given past events. Regardless, it should not be left to the Miamis and FSUs of this world to contest a growing Clemson center of gravity. Not to mention that noise coming from Pitt and Syracuse. Syracuse is going to be particularly good in 2-3 years when it has finished implementing the Clemson model. A strong UNC football program resonates to the benefit of the ACC itself. I think they can be smug, and I don't mind an occasional slapdown, but they need to be good.
I think Miami wins 37-20 and Virginia Tech wins 42-17A couple of interesting spreads this weekend:
No game in the Coastal is a guarantee.
- Miami (-6) @ Virginia
- Virginia Tech (-5.5) @ North Carolina
This week the ACC has 5 head football coaches on the Coaches Hotseat List
#4 Larry Fedora North Carolina
#6 Bobby Petrino Louisville
#15 Willie Taggart Florida State
#18 Justin Fuente Virginia Tech
#23 Paul Johnson Georgia Tech
I think he should be also I think he's safe until 2019 and i think he'll be fired if Virginia has a losing season in 2019.Why is Bronco not on this list?
I always bristle when someone says that the game or the conference "needs" a particular program to be a strong contender. I think that reinforces the idea of a two tiered system of have and have notes that artificially inflates the achievements and rankings of "elite" programs and downplays those of lesser status.Because it is, despite some of the crummiest management and increasing political interference possible, still a wonderful public university still providing a quality education for a still reasonable cost (yes, it is a relative judgment) and because it is possible to be both a quality educational center and a football power without selling out ... and I know that has to be proved given past events. Regardless, it should not be left to the Miamis and FSUs of this world to contest a growing Clemson center of gravity. Not to mention that noise coming from Pitt and Syracuse. Syracuse is going to be particularly good in 2-3 years when it has finished implementing the Clemson model. A strong UNC football program resonates to the benefit of the ACC itself. I think they can be smug, and I don't mind an occasional slapdown, but they need to be good.
BVG is an abortion
FTFY
As mad as they can make me, both UNC and the ACC need and deserve a strong football program in Chapel Hill. They have tried it all: a grad who came back with a good program that was clean but didn't win enough, then Butch Davis and his outlaw recruiter who could win a lot with more outlaws on the field, then Fedora who somehow sold them on the idea of his "creative" offense ... that was being used by half the teams in the country. Plus at times he makes Johnson look like Rosebud. I hope they get a good one and don't let institutional arrogance get in the way of at least considering Satterfield.
Bristle a lot, do you?I always bristle when someone says that the game or the conference "needs" a particular program to be a strong contender. I think that reinforces the idea of a two tiered system of have and have notes that artificially inflates the achievements and rankings of "elite" programs and downplays those of lesser status.
The ACC would be just fine ( and more interesting in my mind) with Wake, Duke and Tech at the top and Clemson, FSU and Miami as cellar dwellers.
Same thing if you had Vandy and Miss St. playing in Atlanta for the SEC title and a trip to the playoffs.
All else to the side, the "standings" of your fantasy would reduce the ACC to club football. Because ESPN and any other network would flee from a TV contract. (And I don't argue that club football is bad.)I always bristle when someone says that the game or the conference "needs" a particular program to be a strong contender. I think that reinforces the idea of a two tiered system of have and have notes that artificially inflates the achievements and rankings of "elite" programs and downplays those of lesser status.
The ACC would be just fine ( and more interesting in my mind) with Wake, Duke and Tech at the top and Clemson, FSU and Miami as cellar dwellers.
Same thing if you had Vandy and Miss St. playing in Atlanta for the SEC title and a trip to the playoffs.
They fight like they play football. Not very convincingly.That's disgusting. Those weren't even college kids "that don't know any better". Just trashy people who waste our oxygen.