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I don't think Quick Rick is a stellar judge of character, based on his own decisions
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I have a feeling this'll become a running gag.
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@Peacone36 please tell us you dropped a big f you to that arrogant a** we all know and love 
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Here's Jerry Palm's latest Bracketology. I just can't see how he sees Clemson as a #9 seed in the NCAA Tournament!
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
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Nice article from Al Featherston on why ACC may not be able to get to 11 bids and tie Big East for record.
Basically comes down to the idea that the bottom of the BE that year was really trash that the top 11 teams beat up on, while this year's ACC is deeper and the bottom teams are better than those bottom BE teams, so fewer victories for the bubble teams. The bottom 5 teams in the BE that year were 6-57 against Top 11 BE opponents, 2 of them had 0 conference wins. BC and GT combined already have 5 wins.
http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/2017/1/18/14307308/gaming-the-system-acc-basketball-ncaa-rpi
The article also talks about the gaming of RPI and how to have a high RPI without a really tough schedule. it comes back to something i have said in years past - you simply have to try to not schedule teams that are expected to be sub 200 in the RPI and especially sub 250, they kill your RPI. That is why Miami has a poor RPI despite having a good record and a solid ACC start - they played too many bottom feeders. it's also why UGA's RPI is as high as it is, they haven't beaten a team that is likely even a bubble team (Miss is closest and their only Top 50 win, but are projected to end around 85-90 in the RPI), but they have played almost no really bottom feeder teams, so it inflates their RPI.
Basically comes down to the idea that the bottom of the BE that year was really trash that the top 11 teams beat up on, while this year's ACC is deeper and the bottom teams are better than those bottom BE teams, so fewer victories for the bubble teams. The bottom 5 teams in the BE that year were 6-57 against Top 11 BE opponents, 2 of them had 0 conference wins. BC and GT combined already have 5 wins.
http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/2017/1/18/14307308/gaming-the-system-acc-basketball-ncaa-rpi
The article also talks about the gaming of RPI and how to have a high RPI without a really tough schedule. it comes back to something i have said in years past - you simply have to try to not schedule teams that are expected to be sub 200 in the RPI and especially sub 250, they kill your RPI. That is why Miami has a poor RPI despite having a good record and a solid ACC start - they played too many bottom feeders. it's also why UGA's RPI is as high as it is, they haven't beaten a team that is likely even a bubble team (Miss is closest and their only Top 50 win, but are projected to end around 85-90 in the RPI), but they have played almost no really bottom feeder teams, so it inflates their RPI.
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The rankings of the ACC in the various computer rankings is insanely impressive. They generally have 10-11 teams in the top 50 (or top 55), then a couple more in the top 75 with only GT (who is 113 in KenPom and 102 in Sagarin) and BC being below 100.
the goods news for ACC teams is that losses aren't going to hurt you much, the bad news is every game is going to be a battle.
But alot of opportunities for good wins.
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Watching FSU v ND.. And man is FSU athletic - they've got a ton of weapons that they can throw at you.
That said, they can probably be beat by more disciplined teams, given the way they like to play and their relatively undisciplined nature.
That said, they can probably be beat by more disciplined teams, given the way they like to play and their relatively undisciplined nature.
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Anyone think Brad Brownell may be coaching himself out of a job at Clemson.
Now at 1-5 in the ACC in a year they are expected to make the NCAA (despite that start most brackets still have them in - ACC is sort of ridiculous).
If Clemson wanted to make a move this season is the most beneficial one to Clemson over the next 3-4 yrs to do so
http://www.shakinthesouthland.com/2...wnell-contract-extension-my-extended-thoughts
Will be interesting to see how the rest of their season plays out. This has been the least Brownell looking team since he arrived - not nearly as good on defense as previous squads,
Now at 1-5 in the ACC in a year they are expected to make the NCAA (despite that start most brackets still have them in - ACC is sort of ridiculous).
If Clemson wanted to make a move this season is the most beneficial one to Clemson over the next 3-4 yrs to do so
http://www.shakinthesouthland.com/2...wnell-contract-extension-my-extended-thoughts
Will be interesting to see how the rest of their season plays out. This has been the least Brownell looking team since he arrived - not nearly as good on defense as previous squads,
I think he's their Mark Fox. Probably a good (enough) gameday coach but won't ever recruit well enough to get over the hump. Every 2-3 years will coach well/poor enough to justify an extension or firing.
ETA: Next thing you know, you look up and he's been there 10 years. Meh.
ETA: Next thing you know, you look up and he's been there 10 years. Meh.
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Honestly, I don't think Clemson cares enough about hoops to make the move. If he wins 15 - 18 games overall and 5 or 6 in ACC most years and then has a "breakout" year where they win 23 and 8 and go to NIT or NCAA, I think he stays. the worst thing that could happen for him would be if Dabo is hit by a bus and people actually realize they have another team and it matters if they win or lose
I could see Brownell being cut loose but I doubt it. Pickings are kind of slim right now though. A lot of moving and shaking the last few years. Keatts? McCall? Forbes? Gregory? Kermit Davis? Eh.....
Miller, Marshall, Enfield and Capel aren't going there. Jacobson is struggling this year and Clemson won't hire him. Kristowiak isn't coming east.
I often wonder who is going to take the plunge and give Kelvin Sampson his next job? Pearls popularity seems to be flickering a bit, could he jump ship?
Some interesting stuff but I think Brownell gets another year.
Miller, Marshall, Enfield and Capel aren't going there. Jacobson is struggling this year and Clemson won't hire him. Kristowiak isn't coming east.
I often wonder who is going to take the plunge and give Kelvin Sampson his next job? Pearls popularity seems to be flickering a bit, could he jump ship?
Some interesting stuff but I think Brownell gets another year.
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The latest CBS Sports 2016-2017 NCAA Men's Basketball Bracketology says the ACC may have a record number of teams in the Big Dance and says GT has a chance to be invited.
http://www.cbssports.com/college-ba...record-for-number-of-teams-in-ncaa-tournament
http://www.cbssports.com/college-ba...record-for-number-of-teams-in-ncaa-tournament
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Honestly with the way things are shaping up, there’s no way the ACC should get 11 invites. I’d rather not be the SEC of basketball where a bunch of mediocre records pass up better records because we are “beating up on each other”. It worked for the Big East a few years ago because like someone said, the bottom teams were atrocious. Even in 2011, Marquette probably shouldn’t have gotten in over St. Mary’s.
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Will Wade is a Clemson grad. I can't fathom he wouldn't head home if offered.
Clemson just dumped a ton of money in to renovating Littlejohn (wonder who would want to do something like that?) and Brownell's another year in to a contract extension he probably shouldn't have gotten (like 4 years).
They actually have quite a bit of talent right now, already on the team and coming in next year (I wanna say 3 Top 100 kids).
I think Brownell will get another year, but the combination of clear choice, upgraded facility, & enough talent for a new coach to win immediately certainly give you enough to think about.