Why does it matter how many “actually did anything”? Are you disparaging former players because they weren’t NFL stars? Making it to the league is hard. Staying there is harder. There’s a reason why the average NFL career is 3 years. But just for the record, 6 of the 10 guys who made it to the league played for 3 or more years.
First of all, I loved CPJ and think he is a HOF coach. In saying that, if scheme and coaching truly beat talent, we should have been beating ugag and Clemson at a better clip.
Here are some facts. There are 300,000 seniors playing high school football. And ...
Your point has always been recruiting. Our greatest players never played in the NFL. It is all coaching. Scheme scheme scheme which our current staff does not believe in. We will never recruit at the level you believe. And even if we do we need scheme. But in 2 years the next staff may be better.
Calvin is the best player of all time and he went 2nd overall and is a NFL Hall of Famer. name Anyone over the last 15 years who was the best player on our team. I bet they played in the NFL.
Ok....name them who actually played....In fact CPJ may have put the most actual players who saw significant time in the NFL.
I have a headache just reading this
05-6 C. Johnson
So now you’ve completely moved the goalposts into something not even relevant to the topic at hand. It’s established the greatest “scheme” coach in Georgia Tech’s modern history had the best seasons when he had the most talent. His teams with the least talent had the least success. You cannot win games consistently on
If my math is correct, Tech placed 143 players into the NFL since 1960. Of those, 24 were CPJ players.
So if we subtract 143 from 24 we are at 119. Before CPJ and including Dodd we had 9 coaches. Now some were short term but that being said math says CPJ might have the most as many years under the coaches we put no one in. But in my book who cares. CPJ took us to winning heights we had not seen since the 50s. And of course the morons will point out 2015. Ross 2-9. 3-8. No coach in my 51 years owned Georgia. We beat Clemson in the early 70s because they sucked. Kevin Tisdale....look him up.
Your comment that CPJ took us to heights we haven’t seen since the 50s is just not true. We won a national title in 1990 and finished in the top 10 in 98. We had two orange bowl appearances under CPJ. One we got smoked and the other we won.
Joe Hamilton did play. I saw him play for the Buccaneers when they had QBs hurt under Tony Dungy. Did he start?No. It was one game, but the dude actually played in the NFL.
No bias. I was there for the Iowa game too. It was my second to last semester at GT. In all honesty, I forgot the score was so close at the end. It was a good season and great one by GT standards. Adrian clayborn played a great game for Iowa and showed why he was deserving of a first round pick. To account for any perceived bias, how about we got beat in one and we won one.I know the Orange Bowl against Iowa was difficult to watch - I was there, and I about froze watching their D dominate our O that night, but 24-14 is not "smoked". Your bias seems obvious when you call that "smoked", but our win over Missy State was just "we won".
What PJ did in a few special seasons was more difficult than for any previous coaches - we know that college football today is a much more top heavy situation, with only a few teams getting the best of the best. Now, again, I don't want to issue "sainthood" on PJ, but for those of you who underestimate his success during this very modern era, I can just say I believe you are wrong, but it will take seeing what you probably will see over the next 4-5 years to fully understand the difficulty.
Now compare those 4 Guys with what CGC has done in just a short 1.5 Recruiting Classes by getting Sims & Gibbs, maybe add in Jamious Griffin
