Your just being kind to the previous coach. At this point it is OK to be honest about how bad he wasThe only mitigating circumstance would be if Their coach was truly abysmal, one of the worst to ever coach at a high level anywhere…
I agree mostly but I think we all collectively exaggerate the talent that we had on the 2008/2009 teams at least compared to the teams that we were playing. For one, I am not sure that all of those players would of been legends on the flats without Johnson coaching them. I actually think that the job that Johnson did those first few years was some of the best coaching that I've ever seen at GT but it seems to be remembered as him having inherited an elite roster that he didn't' screw up. That point aside, we had 9 future NFL players on the 2008 roster less than most P5 teams we played that year. I loved all of those players and some others too who didn't end up playing in the NFL. That being said and I am trying to be very respectful of those teams which i loved but we were 2 deep with 2 and 3 star players at most positions.
I think Collins was terrible, I think it's also just funny that here the transition-apologists are talking a LOT about how the changed roster needs means coming off a winning season with a couple of recent 9+ win seasons is actually "the hardest transition in college football" but aren't doing any specific handicapping of, say, is that harder than trying to get back to bowl games after taking over a program that's gone 3-9 year after year after year? If you expect the "average" non-option coach to struggle with the 2019 team, what would you expect the "average" coach to do after taking over a 3-9 Collins team?
The only mitigating circumstance would be if their coach was truly abysmal, one of the worst to ever coach at a high level anywhere…
I agree with all of this but I think the mitigating factor is that Collins was so inept at running the program, up to and including practice, that Key was able to make a dramatic change mid season just by resuming normal football operations.
My money is on this. Given that we were gonna do a full roster rebuild, which in retrospect seems really dumb, I think/hope that Collins did a pretty good job with the roster rebuild. Collins was such a horrible coach, both day to day and on gameday, that we didn't see the results of the roster rebuild until Key took over mid season.
I think that is part of the point. A good coach did not have to rebuild so much as just transistion and then build on a good transition. There was talent from the start for the worst coach ever in the history of coaching.
Boy, its a good thing that the internet was not around when Bud Carson replaced the living legend himself Bobby Dodd. As for Collins, he is gone and Coach Johnson is enjoying a well deserved retirement. So leave it at that. IMHO
I’ve got some great news for you…. It’s actually only 39 days away.
And what indication do you have that ADTS wasn’t disfunctional
We have beat that dog to death. GT wanted change from the CJP Option program. There are plenty of opinions if that was a good approach.
He warned about hiring Collins, we should've listened.
I don't know the answer to your question but a cursory examination of that first year (2019) gives a good idea of what strange times the program was about to enter. Tech played poorly in losing to both the Citadel and Temple yet somehow managed to beat a Miami team that had been picked to place second in the Coastal and a pretty decent NC State team. Just try to wrap your head around that. The only thing I remember from that Miami game was that we actually played pretty well and that the Miami fan board Canes in sight absolutely crucified Manny for that and never let up during his entire tenure. Must have been a bad year for new coaches.
