bucknellbison31
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Oh trust me, I know it's wishful thinking. A man can dream...
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Northeast Stinger
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Official attendance at BC / Virginia game was over 41,000 with stadium at 94% capacity. For a region of the country that doesn’t care about college football, in a city that has plenty of other options for a Saturday, and with two bad to mediocre teams, this was pretty terrific attendance. It even looked good on TV and made for an exciting atmosphere.
As I’ve said before, BC has a very intentional strategy for getting people in the stands. Against all odds they are keeping fan interest alive.
If anyone wants to start a separate thread about strategies for increasing home attendance feel free to move this post.
As I’ve said before, BC has a very intentional strategy for getting people in the stands. Against all odds they are keeping fan interest alive.
If anyone wants to start a separate thread about strategies for increasing home attendance feel free to move this post.
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Maybe some of these ideas could be either adopted or adapted by Tech. This is just what's new for this year:
2023 BC Football Game Day Enhancements - Boston College Athletics
As BC celebrates its 125th season, fans can expect new initiatives at Alumni Stadium.
bceagles.com
Also found this on their "Office of Community and Government Affairs" website:
"In conjunction with the Athletics Department, the Office of Governmental & Community Affairs provides tickets to residents of Allston-Brighton to all Boston College home football, basketball and hockey games. Whenever possible, tickets are also donated to youth sports organizations and local community groups to support their charitable activities."
This is the kind of thing I think Tech could do. Allston and Brighton are neighborhoods adjoining their campus.
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This is The WayMaybe some of these ideas could be either adopted or adapted by Tech. This is just what's new for this year:
2023 BC Football Game Day Enhancements - Boston College Athletics
As BC celebrates its 125th season, fans can expect new initiatives at Alumni Stadium.
Also found this on their "Office of Community and Government Affairs" website:
"In conjunction with the Athletics Department, the Office of Governmental & Community Affairs provides tickets to residents of Allston-Brighton to all Boston College home football, basketball and hockey games. Whenever possible, tickets are also donated to youth sports organizations and local community groups to support their charitable activities."
This is the kind of thing I think Tech could do. Allston and Brighton are neighborhoods adjoining their campus.
Thwg777
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With today being a work day, I read this quickly and first thought, I didn’t realize they had much to do in particle physics… I am s upid
bobongo
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Winning is the best way to enhance attendance, but I like what they're doing. Note that they're not turning it into some kind of circus. Just common-sense ways to cater to the fans.
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My youngest daughter has never been a college football fan but as a faculty member at BC she is now seeing it as part of the culture and collegiality of being there. They enticed her with initial free tickets (her and a guest) and a wonderful free food spread prior to the game. She was also allowed to come and go from the stadium several times, and with ease, as she attended to some work. The fans around her chatted her up about the history of BC football and made her feel part of the club. She was impressed.
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It told me D gave up 450+ yards...
78pike
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Did it also tell you they took the ball away 5 times with three of them being on our end of the field when they were about to score?
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Assuming the ACC website is correct, we did better than most. Miami got 450 yards against TA&M, but scored 48 points in the process.
Team | G | RUSH | PASS | PLAYS | YDS | AVG/P | TD | AVG/G | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Miami | 5 | 1055 | 1474 | 335 | 2529 | 7.5 | 23 | 505.8 |
| 2 | North Carolina | 5 | 871 | 1629 | 389 | 2500 | 6.4 | 21 | 500.0 |
| 3 | Louisville | 6 | 1154 | 1650 | 395 | 2804 | 7.1 | 27 | 467.3 |
| 4 | Clemson | 6 | 1129 | 1495 | 457 | 2624 | 5.7 | 24 | 437.3 |
| 5 | Florida State | 5 | 873 | 1288 | 311 | 2161 | 6.9 | 26 | 432.2 |
| 6 | Georgia Tech | 6 | 936 | 1651 | 396 | 2587 | 6.5 | 24 | 431.2 |
| 7 | Syracuse | 6 | 1045 | 1488 | 416 | 2533 | 6.1 | 24 | 422.2 |
| 8 | Duke | 5 | 997 | 1030 | 318 | 2027 | 6.4 | 20 | 405.4 |
| 9 | Boston College | 6 | 1171 | 1203 | 424 | 2374 | 5.6 | 21 | 395.7 |
| 10 | Wake Forest | 5 | 809 | 1150 | 369 | 1959 | 5.3 | 13 | 391.8 |
| 11 | NC State | 6 | 891 | 1236 | 416 | 2127 | 5.1 | 20 | 354.5 |
| 12 | Virginia | 6 | 597 | 1496 | 399 | 2093 | 5.2 | 16 | 348.8 |
| 13 | Virginia Tech | 6 | 841 | 1216 | 411 | 2057 | 5.0 | 16 |
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If they do, they’re in the wrong place. They’re scheduled in Chapel Hill tomorrow
Miami at North Carolina odds, picks and predictions
Analyzing Saturday’s Miami at North Carolina odds and lines, with college football expert picks, predictions and best bets.
sportsbookwire.usatoday.com
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Oh shiite lol! I totally meant UNC…..If they do, they’re in the wrong place. They’re scheduled in Chapel Hill tomorrow
Miami at North Carolina odds, picks and predictions
Analyzing Saturday’s Miami at North Carolina odds and lines, with college football expert picks, predictions and best bets.
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Oh, but that would have been spectacularly delicious. Miami so PO’ed that they go to Clemson rather than Chapel Hill, and have to forfeit the game…we’d have beaten them twice in two weeks.
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Again, the original question was about scheme. Specifically, which is better, two linebackers or three? Against Miami the scheme held Miami to 3 points in the first half and well below their average for the game. That tells me the scheme was not a problem.
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They’re both kind of good questions.
Should we have had a 4-3 instead of a 4-2-5?
Did we suck because we gave up 450 yards?
For the first question, Miami averages about 295 yards through the air and about 210 on the ground. Even though I feel like they’re more dangerous through the air, that’s pretty balanced. I still feel like a speedy receiver would take more advantage of the LB than the running back would take advantage of the nickel.
Almost everyone runs a 4-2-5 (nickel) D these days. If it was a big advantage to run against it, why not put a fullback in or go jumbo and force the defense to change? But, no one does that. Maybe it’s not worth it?
| Pass | Rush | Tota | Firs | Pena | Turn | |||||||||||||||||
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| Split | G | Cmp | Att | Pct | Yds | TD | Att | Yds | Avg | TD | Plays | Yds | Avg | Pass | Rush | Pen | Tot | No. | Yds | Fum | Int | Tot |
| Offense | 5 | 22.0 | 30.0 | 73.3 | 294.8 | 2.4 | 37.0 | 211.0 | 5.7 | 2.2 | 67.0 | 505.8 | 7.5 | 12.2 | 11.0 | 1.2 | 24.4 | 7.2 | 70.8 | 0.8 | 0.8 | 1.6 |
| Defense | 5 | 18.0 | 32.4 | 55.6 | 210.2 | 0.8 | 25.4 | 58.2 | 2.3 | 1.0 | 57.8 | 268.4 | 4.6 | 8.2 | 3.4 | 2.2 | 13.8 | 7.0 | 48.6 | 0.6 | 1.2 | 1.8 |
| Difference | +4.0 | -2.4 | +17.7 | +84.6 | +1.6 | +11.6 | +152.8 | +3.4 | +1.2 | +9.2 | +237.4 | +2.9 | +4.0 | +7.6 | -1.0 | +10.6 | +0.2 | +22.2 | +0.2 | -0.4 | -0.2 |
Provided by CFB at Sports Reference: View Original Table
Generated 10/13/2023.
As for “did we suck because we gave up 450 yards”?
Overall, they converted first downs (link), and were above average in passing yards. They got 7.7 yards per pass and 4.3 yards per rush. That tell you what you already know—they got a lot of yards.
They have a low EPA, very few explosive plays (which were always a Miami signature), and they were terrible in the red zone. Like you already know, they didn’t score very much.
This is “bend but don’t break”, which is great when you don’t break. We didn’t break. It’s pretty good.
| Overall | GT | MIAMI |
|---|---|---|
| EPA/Play | -0.15 23rd %ile | -0.16 21st %ile |
| Success Rate | 37% 29th %ile | 46% 72nd %ile |
| Yards/Play | 4.81 22nd %ile | 5.58 44th %ile |
| EPA/Dropback | -0.36 15th %ile | -0.26 22nd %ile |
| EPA/Rush | 0.07 60th %ile | -0.07 36th %ile |
| Yards/Dropback | 5.59 41st %ile | 7.70 76th %ile |
| Explosive Play Rate | 8% 47th %ile | 4% 9th %ile |
| 3rd Down Success Rate | 29% 19th %ile | 44% 58th %ile |
| Red Zone Success Rate | 43% 57th %ile | 27% 23rd %ile |
| Def Run Stuff Rate | 9% 0th %ile | 20% 9th %ile |
| Havoc Rate | 11% 58th %ile | 13% 72nd %ile |
We netted about 11 points in our favor for our 3 turnover advantage. That won us the game. Now, was that luck or skill? I’d say that last fumble was pretty lucky—lots of effort on our part, but still lucky. The interceptions seemed to be skill and strategy.
I still think we played a great game, even if luck was a factor. Much more fun to win than to lose.
| Drives | GT | Miami |
|---|---|---|
| Total | 12 | 13 |
| Avg Starting Field Position | Opp 20 | Own 13 |
| Plays/Drive | 5.81 | 8.05 |
| Yards/Drive | 32.44 | 42.31 |
| Available Yards % | 161% | 49% |
| Defensive | GT | Miami |
|---|---|---|
| Scrimmage Plays | 81 | 52 |
| Stop Rate | 46% | 35% |
| Havoc Plays Created | 9 (11%) | 7 (13%) |
| Passing | 6 (16%) | 4 (15%) |
| Rushing | 3 (7%) | 3 (12%) |
| TFLs Generated | 6 | 5 |
| Passing | 3 | 2 |
| Rushing | 3 | 3 |
| Sacks Generated | 1 (3%) | 1 (4%) |
| Passes Defensed | 0 | 0 |
| Interceptions | 3 | 2 |
| Fumbles Forced | 0 | 0 |
| Turnovers | GT | Miami |
|---|---|---|
| Turnovers | 2 | 5 |
| Fumbles | 1 | 2 |
| Fumbles Lost | 0 | 2 |
| Fumbles Recovered | 1 | 0 |
| Interceptions | 2 | 3 |
| Turnover Margin | 3 | -3 |
| Expected Turnovers | 0.9 | 1.7 |
| Expected Turnover Margin | 0.7 | -0.7 |
| Turnover Luck (pts) | 11.4 | -11.4 |
IEEEWreck
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I thought they took down the goalposts these days.
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We did, ole miss was a situation fo we had to risk it to try to win the game. Unfortunately once we failed they made us pay and it just kept bleeding. Inverse of what we did to pitt in 2014.