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Boaty1 said:
Yeah... just the type of post I would expect from you. Not sure why one single supposed tech fan would like your post. Fortunately for you there are a lot of other Johnson fans as opposed to tech fans on this site.

“Who cares you guys are on the downward spiral. It’s where you should be.” That is the Johnson supporters mantra. Do your thing buddy.
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Because they understand the difference between the way the world is and the way they wish the world was.

Again: the team is almost EXACTLY at it's historical average. That is: since the beginning of Georgia Tech football, it has been, on average, a 7-5 program that loses to UGA.

That's been Georgia Tech for generations. To act like being 7-5 and losing to UGA is somehow a death spiral, when in fact it is 100% par for the course for the program is akin to getting mad at a high jumper because he can't fly.
 

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ilovetheoption said:
So, understand that I'm a UVa fan here, so I come with a little different perspective, but:

What makes you people think you are entitled to anything more than slam average? Is there something special in the GT water where logic and basics go out the water and everybody is above average in everything?

If you took a school not named Georgia Tech, and gave it the exact same situation as Georgia Tech, how good would you EXPECT them to be?

Pros: Cool City, Fertile Recruiting Area, Storied History (several generations ago).
Cons: Cruddy Academic situation, unattractive majors, CLEAR 2nd level team in your own state, reputation as a boring/lame place to go to school, marginal facilities, marginal salary for coaching and recruiting

Essentially, you're Vanderbilt, or you're UVa.

So why do you believe that you're not? Why do you believe that "9 wins a year at a minimum" is a reasonable thing to say?

I PUT FORTH: you have been spoiled rotten with good coaches, going back to Bobby Ross. This is not because of anything your school particularly has to offer. You have just made a series of good hires. This has led you to believe that there is something at GT that there is not, and my strong belief is that with one crappy hire, you could EASILY be where UVA or Vanderbilt has been for the last 20 years.

You act like finishing .500 in the ACC is some given, and that going to a bowl is no accomplishment. I believe you are wrong, and I almost wish you would fire Johnson, and hire some scrub, just so you could see how unspecial your program really is.

You hear people talk about a businesses "fundamentals", and how sometimes you can outperform fundamentals, but usually not. GT's fundamentals are nothing special, and you should be GRATEFUL to be outperforming them for as long as you have.
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This is a very honest and accurate post. I dont want to like it but it speaks nothing but the truth. Thank you.
 

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I feel like we are going round in circles here.
Reality is GT hasn't changed much during cpjs tenure where schools like UGA / Clemson and the likes have pumped a ton into the athletics and they are what they are now, major football factories. We are not


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wesgt123 said:
I get tired of the “well at least we graduate this amount of players and have this degree and that degree”

Maybe it’s because I didn’t go to Tech and just a sidewalk fan, or because I’m young but I’m not a fan of Tech for academics. I’m a fan of football. I’m super stoked that most of Tech’s students get a degree and graduate early, life is much more than football. But damnnnn son, can we at least look competitive consistently? Win some big games? It’s just frustrating when we lose or get embarrassed people revert to academics and such to highlight.
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I agree !! I didn’t become a gt fan when I was 10 years old because we kick *** in the classroom ! I for one like to kick it on the field & be able to wear my gt stuff with pride after we play uga
 
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Boaty1 said:
Yeah... just the type of post I would expect from you. Not sure why one single supposed tech fan would like your post. Fortunately for you there are a lot of other Johnson fans as opposed to tech fans on this site.

“Who cares you guys are on the downward spiral. It’s where you should be.” That is the Johnson supporters mantra. Do your thing buddy.
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I’ll answer. The reason I don’t advocate firing the coach is people act like this is a panacea. I’ve seen coaches come and go yet the basic equation never changes. Now if Stansbury steps up and says here’s my strategy to turn our sports programs around and it includes the multitude of beaten dead reasons AND it includes a staff change well then I’ll bite.

If you just want to go fishing for a messiah to lead us to the promised land, we’ll that’s only happened once in the history of the world. Look around. It’s the rinse and repeat cycle that every program ranked from about 10-80 is
locked into. Thee’s a reason why they’re all mired in the same rut, plus or minus a win or two per year that we’re in. There is no messiah to fix what is largely institutional or major structural problems at those 70 odd schools.
 
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ilovetheoption said:
Which makes them mediocre fans.
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THWG16 said:
True !! I think some people on here can live off that orange bowl win for 80 years
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It’s been essentially going down hill since. Face the facts your dear leader is not cutting it. You wanna talk about Dodd too? Wanna y’all about the glory days of winning during a time of segregated bathrooms and black and white televisions.
 
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From all that I've read, after Clemson won their national championship in 2016, the UGA boosters basically came to the realization that they have the ability to achieve the same if they put in the financial commitment to improve. They canned their highly successful coach and hired the best one they could to replace him, massively expanded their football staff and salaries, started work on new facilities, and literally hired whatever high profile recruiter they could regardless of cost (remember when they were trying to poach Andy McCollum?). Their uptick in investment is paying off and right now they're just going to continue to separate themselves from the rest of the pack.

As of 2017, we rank 61st in football spending out of 65 Power 5 teams at $17.38 million per year. We beat out Kansas ($14.01 million), Oregon State ($15.75 million), Wake Forest ($16.61 million), and Purdue ($16.89 million) in spending (yearly bottom feeders). Colorado (ranked #57) and GT are the only teams outside of the top 30 that have won a national championship in the last 35 years. The only consistently good programs outside of this Top 30 range are Stanford and Oklahoma State, all others (including us) are mostly just up and down the last decade.

Too many times we've heard about how we've been denied facility improvements, coordinator hires, and recruiting staff expansion due to monetary restrictions. If we want to achieve greater consistency, I'd wager we need to spend about $6 to $10 million more a year (near Stanford's commitment) and overhaul the staff with demonstrably better coaches (strength and conditioning would be a start) and finish the 2020 Initiative for greater facilities. However, we all know how unlikely this is to occur. It's a pretty bad problem to be in considering I highly doubt any member of this board has that kind of financial influence to make the changes we need. And before you mention the ACC Network bringing in greater money, keep in mind everyone in our league gets that benefit as well.
 

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ilovetheoption said:
Because they understand the difference between the way the world is and the way they wish the world was.

Again: the team is almost EXACTLY at it's historical average. That is: since the beginning of Georgia Tech football, it has been, on average, a 7-5 program that loses to UGA.

That's been Georgia Tech for generations. To act like being 7-5 and losing to UGA is somehow a death spiral, when in fact it is 100% par for the course for the program is akin to getting mad at a high jumper because he can't fly.
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Buddy. I’ll slow it down for you. My frustration doesn’t come from this game. It comes from being 24-24 over the past 4 years. Missing 2 bowl games after going to 18 straight. We haven’t been ranked since the second week of 2015. From 05-11 we were ranked in the top 15 at some point in each season. I know this tech thing is new to you but we have historically been better than these last 4 years. IThe program is moving in the wrong direction. Take out Johnsons 1st 2 years with Gailey’s players and Johnson is below our historical standards. Time for a change. But don’t worry. UVA is improving. You have a lot to look forward to.
 
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ilovetheoption said:
How about we live in the present. GT is 7-5 and finished 2nd in their division in the coastal. That's a decent (not great) result for a program with crappy fan support, crappy facilities, and one of the lower paid coaching staffs in the P5.
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Paul Johnson needs to send gift baskets to the coaches of those crappy teams. Without them Tech would not have a winning record. You know that and I know that.
 

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Treb1982 said:
Yes been Achilles heel all year and constant miss reads from the qb.
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We could have had Namath and Ditka and you name 'em. The stark daylight truth is we were outmanned at every position. Maybe not punter. After resigning myself to another slough, my biggest complaint is that those slugs at OSU are back in the race for one of the four spots. Harbaugh showed himself a pretender, again -- I gave up on us and watched part of that game. Michigan was slow and dumb, I mean dumb. the politicking will commence.
 
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