The ACC will delay the start of competition for all fall sports until at least Sept. 1

[ramblinwreckguru]

It may be a necessity to keep athletic departments afloat.

No matter what we think about player safety, we can hardly argue against selling stadiums to full capacity in September.

I’m a fan of this, this will most likely allow students to attend, along with 20,000 more folks on Saturdays!

I think this will allow a full season to be played as well. I’m all for it

I don't think this will do anything but kick the can down the road and create problems for fall football season 2021 if a spring season does get off the ground.

 

[Deleted member 2897]

Please share it.

On the CDC website as of August 7th, “CDC does not currently have guidance for adult sports leagues.” LOL. Thanks for the help guys!

 

[Augusta_Jacket]

Please share it.

Testimony of experts.

A doctor and former football player warns it's not safe for the NFL to start the season

A former football player turned doctor said he remains concerned about the safety of organized sports as the Covid-19 pandemic continues to rage in the US.

www.cnn.com

At the Heart of It: Cardiac Inflammation the Next Virus Hurdle for College Leaders

University leaders are grappling with new information from the medical world about the after effects of coronavirus, including cardiac heart issues.

www.si.com

College Football Not Safe To Play This Fall, California Doctor And State Senator Says

Dr. Richard Pan, a California state senator with a master’s in public health from Harvard, lays out the reasons it isn't safe to play college football this fall.

www.forbes.com

Dr. Anthony Fauci: Football is ‘perfect set up for spreading’ COVID-19 virus

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, spoke about the impact the pandemic has on football.

www.al.com

 

[Sean311]

Ya don’t worry guys the virus will be gone in the spring I promise! Actually you know what let’s go ahead and cancel all sports for eternity that will slow the spread!

 

[Deleted member 2897]

Testimony of experts.

A doctor and former football player warns it's not safe for the NFL to start the season

A former football player turned doctor said he remains concerned about the safety of organized sports as the Covid-19 pandemic continues to rage in the US.

www.cnn.com

At the Heart of It: Cardiac Inflammation the Next Virus Hurdle for College Leaders

University leaders are grappling with new information from the medical world about the after effects of coronavirus, including cardiac heart issues.

www.si.com

College Football Not Safe To Play This Fall, California Doctor And State Senator Says

Dr. Richard Pan, a California state senator with a master’s in public health from Harvard, lays out the reasons it isn't safe to play college football this fall.

www.forbes.com

Dr. Anthony Fauci: Football is ‘perfect set up for spreading’ COVID-19 virus

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, spoke about the impact the pandemic has on football.

www.al.com

Thanks for sharing those. That’s kind of what I expected to hear. Too much community spread. Not safe to have fans. Not even safe to start college. A tiny percentage of people have heart issues and they don’t yet know why.

If these are the people conference commissioners are listening to, we won’t have college sports Until not only is there a vaccine, but a highly effective one at that. Hard to have any glimmer of hope.

 

[Techster]

Not sure why people continue to say things like this. I, like most people, haven’t killed a single person and haven’t spread the virus to a soul. So what in the hell are you talking about? Just a flair for the dramatic?

From your post, you wouldn't get why this is a "we" thing and not an "I" thing. As you're seeing though, WE are all in the same boat when it comes to repercussions of this virus: restrictions on dining out, record unemployment, factories getting shut down, scarcity of supplies...and NO COLLEGE SPORTS. One person rocks the boat, everyone gets dunked into the water.

The virus is a community disease...there is literally a term for it in pandemics "community spread". One person affects everyone. I'm not singling you out, but it's no secret that you think this whole thing is pumped up media creation...and that in itself is dangerous because it leads other people to believe the virus isn't something serious. The thing that makes the US the best country in the world has also become a weakness in this pandemic: The notion of each person's independence and ability carrying us through anything. Unfortunately, there are some who take that and ruin it for everyone else. How many videos have we seen of people who "aren't sheep" not putting on masks and fighting store workers trying to enforce mask wearing rules? How about one city with a set of rules, and another city with a different set of rules for this virus?

I don't think you mean ill, Milwaukee, but I do think your whole "I'm not doing anything bad so don't blame me" attitude is wrong in this circumstance.

At some point the US needs to set aside "I" and start focusing on "We". That's the only way we're going to get through this. It's an intellectual concept that obviously some don't understand, or don't want to accept, and that's why the US is where we are. WE are going to have to make some hard choices soon, and WE are all going to have to accept it for a short period so ALL of us can come through the other side and have things like college sports in the fall, dining inside, holding large events...basically living a normal life pre 2020.

 

[jacket_fan]

Testimony of experts.

A doctor and former football player warns it's not safe for the NFL to start the season

A former football player turned doctor said he remains concerned about the safety of organized sports as the Covid-19 pandemic continues to rage in the US.

www.cnn.com

At the Heart of It: Cardiac Inflammation the Next Virus Hurdle for College Leaders

University leaders are grappling with new information from the medical world about the after effects of coronavirus, including cardiac heart issues.

www.si.com

College Football Not Safe To Play This Fall, California Doctor And State Senator Says

Dr. Richard Pan, a California state senator with a master’s in public health from Harvard, lays out the reasons it isn't safe to play college football this fall.

www.forbes.com

Dr. Anthony Fauci: Football is ‘perfect set up for spreading’ COVID-19 virus

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, spoke about the impact the pandemic has on football.

www.al.com

Politics or science.

A Democratic Senator from California? Really? An expert?

 

[Techster]

IF football is moved to the spring, will that mean no basketball and no other spring sports? there will not be any money to support spring sports Or play just a couple of spring sports that don’t cost alot to run?

Moving sports to the spring also assumes:

1. The US will have the virus under control by then

or

2. There is a viable vaccine.

The short history of this tells us #1 is probably not gonna happen. #2 seems more likely, but vaccines are usually a 12-18 month process just to create something viable, and even more time to distribute at a level that's going to become effective.

 

[Techster]

Two sides to this, and BOTH voices deserved to be heard. Parents of Ohio State players:

 

[Deleted member 2897]

Two sides to this, and BOTH voices deserved to be heard. Parents of Ohio State players:

Yes, people should be given the choice, and not punished if they say no.

 

[Deleted member 2897]

Moving sports to the spring also assumes:

1. The US will have the virus under control by then

or

2. There is a viable vaccine.

The short history of this tells us #1 is probably not gonna happen. #2 seems more likely, but vaccines are usually a 12-18 month process just to create something viable, and even more time to distribute at a level that's going to become effective.

I feel exactly the same way. There is no community spread low enough for the people who point to that, so that won’t change by late winter. And a highly effective vaccine won’t be ready by then. So we’ll kick the van again. At least that’s what I would expect.

 

[RonJohn]

Moving sports to the spring also assumes:

1. The US will have the virus under control by then

or

2. There is a viable vaccine.

The short history of this tells us #1 is probably not gonna happen. #2 seems more likely, but vaccines are usually a 12-18 month process just to create something viable, and even more time to distribute at a level that's going to become effective.

If it is announced that football moves to the spring, it doesn't mean that football will actually be played in the spring. I said quite a while back that announcing a move to conference only play wasn't an actual statement that football would happen with a conference only schedule this fall. The conferences merely delayed football in order to open up options. "Moving" to the spring is just a delay to open up more options. It is possible that football could be played with full stands in the spring. It might still not be possible to play with full stands in the spring, but which is better: Playing 10 games in empty or 10% filled stadiums now, or playing 8 games in full stadiums later? Which is better: Playing only conference games now, or possibly playing many high profile neutral site games later? Delay doesn't guarantee you anything, but it does provide for better possibilities that what currently exist.

 

[orientalnc]

Moving sports to the spring also assumes:

1. The US will have the virus under control by then

or

2. There is a viable vaccine.

The short history of this tells us #1 is probably not gonna happen. #2 seems more likely, but vaccines are usually a 12-18 month process just to create something viable, and even more time to distribute at a level that's going to become effective.

Even if there's a safe vaccine by the end of 2020, which is very optimistic, it will take a massive managerial effort to get supplies to the most vulnerable people first. I am sure the richest groups will try to get supplies to the doctors and hospitals where they can buy access to it. But, why shouldn't healthcare workers, grocery store employees, restaurant workers, etc. get it first? I am sure there are others who should be in line before football teams. What about school teachers?

To vaccinate 10% of the US population will require 35 million units of the vaccine plus follow-up doses, if required. Does anyone think athletes will be in the initial 10%? Or 20%. There are 18 million healthcare workers in the US.

 

[RonJohn]

Even if there's a safe vaccine by the end of 2020, which is very optimistic, it will take a massive managerial effort to get supplies to the most vulnerable people first. I am sure the richest groups will try to get supplies to the doctors and hospitals where they can buy access to it. But, why shouldn't healthcare workers, grocery store employees, restaurant workers, etc. get it first? I am sure there are others who should be in line before football teams. What about school teachers?

To vaccinate 10% of the US population will require 35 million units of the vaccine plus follow-up doses, if required. Does anyone think athletes will be in the initial 10%? Or 20%. There are 18 million healthcare workers in the US.

I remember reports that some of the companies with promising vaccines are already producing vaccine in large quantities to have ready if they are approved. The US already purchased the first 100 million doses of one of those vaccines, with options to purchase up to 500 million more. There are about 500,000 NCAA athletes total in all sports, all divisions. I think those athletes could easily be in the first ~30% that would be already available if that vaccine is approved.

COVID-19 Vaccines

COVID-19 Vaccines

www.hhs.gov

 

[CuseJacket]

 

[jacket_fan]

Not that it will save football this year, but there are favorable strides being made towards a vaccine before the end of the year. AstraZeneca is a recent company to show promise.

 

[jacket_fan]

Interesting viewpoint I had not considered.

 

[LibertyTurns]

You have a limited pool of data, the same as most of us. Almost all the medical experts are telling us contact sports are not a good idea right now, but because younger people are more likely to survive the virus, and we desperately want football, we condemn them.

These the same experts that said it does not transmit via the air so you don’t need to wear a mask, or the ones that said it’s ok to pack the subway, or the ones that said it didn’t come from China so it’s racist to ban flights from there, or the ones against HCQ or Remdesivir, etc or the ones that thought they desperately needed ventilators, or the ones that thought it was ok to cram a positive C19 patient into a nursing home bed next to granny, or the ones that said kids can’t get it, or the ones saying it would go away in the summer, or the ones that said it was ok to go to Chinatown’s New Year’s celebration or ride your cycle to Sturgis, or wanted to close boat docks down but leave open tattoo parlors and nail salons, etc. Who exactly is this expert you speak of?

 

[Techster]

 

[ncjacket79]

That’s a very long story of junk from one particular source, you realize that right? You have a better chance of getting struck by lightning and dying than you do corona. Please calm tf down.
There are facts in front of some of your faces and you won’t even look at them because you’re blinded by the fear porn. 99.6% survival rate. What are you screaming about dude?

We’ve gone full.

So you don’t think maybe all that junk you referenced might be some of the reasons for the survival rate you like to post?