The ACC will delay the start of competition for all fall sports until at least Sept. 1

[Deleted member 2897]

I'll give the PAC12 credit, they have been pretty consistent in terms of students and student-athletes. Most of the schools are going to be all or mostly online this fall with only a handful of students on campus. Utah and CO are the 2 biggest outliers. But the 8 West Coast schools are going to be between 90-100% online classes for Fall. All of them have mandatory mask orders on campus.

Having 100% online classes versus in person reduces the hypocrisy a little. But the bigger issue is are students on campus at all or not. If campuses are open across the PAC-12, they’re not cancelling sports for health reasons either. If a university cancels sports and closed campus, I would disagree with their decision, but I could least respect it and the consistency.

 

[orientalnc]

When the B10 & Pac-12 decided to wait until Spring it seemed like the curtain was coming down on the football season. It may yet, but it seems the ACC, SEC and B12 are OK with getting started and trying to play through the outbreaks that may impact their teams. For my part, it never entered my mind to respect or disrespect the decisions made by either of the two that opted out. Also, I am not yet sure I respect the ACC decision to try to play. They aren't really interested in my opinion, so I am not going to waste any energy on it.

 

[Deleted member 2897]

When the B10 & Pac-12 decided to wait until Spring it seemed like the curtain was coming down on the football season. It may yet, but it seems the ACC, SEC and B12 are OK with getting started and trying to play through the outbreaks that may impact their teams. For my part, it never entered my mind to respect or disrespect the decisions made by either of the two that opted out. Also, I am not yet sure I respect the ACC decision to try to play. They aren't really interested in my opinion, so I am not going to waste any energy on it.

Well it’s why we have brains, opinions, and social media. When people crush the dreams of people this site was built to support, we certainly can feel free to point out any hypocrisy and inconsistency and anti-science (or the inverse). And those decision makers can ignore and ridicule those that disagree. It’s part of what makes the world go round.

This is a novel virus - we will have outbreaks on campus this winter too. Nothing will materially change between now and then.

 

[GTNavyNuke]

I respectfully disagree. Even if it were 30% false positives, if it’s that cheap and that fast, you just test again. You could test 10 times in a day...meanwhile the traditional test which is also not foolproof takes multiple days to come back. If 1 poor bastard tests positive 3 times the morning of a game and is actually negative and he sat out for nothing, you still save the season with capabilities like that.

Respectfully also, I was assuming that a failure of the rapid test would result in doing the longer 2-3 day test. And that the rapid test positive test would result in quarantine of all close contacts in the pod. So if there is a Thursday failure, there could be a Saturday impact.

The protocol the Navy / contractors use is to quarantine all close contacts on a positive and test all again. Some wait several days to test so the virus can replicate to the extent to reach a positive concentration in the mucous or blood.

I'm not as confident in the mucous test as this thing is more a blood borne virus that comes in from respiration and then gets distributed through the blood.

But if you aren't on a tight time crunch like football, the fast test is great.

I think this testing protocol is unlikely to be in wide distribution for the Fall football season. That's less than a month away for some. But, what it does is make the Spring football season an almost certainty. A smart move by the ACC would be to have a 3-4 game mini-season beginning in early October, then moving to an eight game Spring season. They might even be able to have fans by that time.

For me, as my favorite sport is college basketball, this a bright ray of sunshine for the 2020-2021 season.

I like college baseball the best and think we'll see a mostly full season there with a few breaks.

And watching cycling now (Dauphine). TdF in less than two weeks. All announcers and riders will quarantine till then. Hope they pull it off.

 

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[LibertyTurns]

Another “politician” caught lying or media lying? When are people going to learn these people have now been trained in misinformation. You can‘t believe damn near a single thing they say. Honesty and integrity are words they should just strike from the dictionary.

 

[684Bee]

Honesty and integrity are words they should just strike from the dictionary.

Nope. It’s up to those of us with principle and backbone to live out these values, demonstrate them in our workplaces, and instill them in our children.

 

[Deleted member 2897]

Notre Dame had 45 positive COVID tests after a large party. So after 1 party far more people tested positive than the entire football team did all summer long. And that’s perfectly okay somehow - student health shmudent health.

 

[SOWEGA Jacket]

And when they retest those 45 how many will come back negative? Numbers are being thrown around to the point they mean nothing. We had a kid on my sons high school football team a month ago test positive in the morning. Since he was going to be shut down for 14 days and possibly the entire team his dad took him to another facility the same day and he tested negative. The next morning they drove to another town, got tested and was negative again. That’s happened many times to people I personally know. These tests just aren’t very accurate so when I hear one party caused 45 positive tests my first thought is the test center they all probably used is bad.

 

[GT_EE78]

Why would the Big 10 LIE?
Since the vote to cancel football season was 8-6 instead of 12-2,have u seen the other four teams listed that wanted to play football ???
(other than Iowa,Nebraska which we knew)
I can see that B10 tweeters think it was Ohio St,Penn St,MD and Purdue who voted against the cancellation.

 

[ncjacket79]

Why would the Big 10 LIE?
Since the vote to cancel football season was 8-6 instead of 12-2,have u seen the other four teams listed that wanted to play football ???
(other than Iowa,Nebraska which we knew)
I can see that B10 tweeters think it was Ohio St,Penn St,MD and Purdue who voted against the cancellation.

It’s not necessarily the Big 10 or whoever reported the 12-2 that was lying. Someone leaked why they heard or wanted to get out. It would be interesting if one of these reporters burned his/her source after getting caught passing on bad info one time.

 

[RonJohn]

Notre Dame had 45 positive COVID tests after a large party. So after 1 party far more people tested positive than the entire football team did all summer long. And that’s perfectly okay somehow - student health shmudent health.

Did the students congregate together in close proximity at the instruction of the University? Do football players congregate close together at the instruction of the football coaches?

Do the students in general engage in competitive sports that put them at risk for sudden death from myocarditis? Do football players?

 

[GT_EE78]

It’s not necessarily the Big 10 or whoever reported the 12-2 that was lying. Someone leaked why they heard or wanted to get out. It would be interesting if one of these reporters burned his/her source after getting caught passing on bad info one time.

You could be absolutely correct. That would be funny if Dan Patrick burned his source of fakenews. He sure has egg on his face. On the other hand,i wouldn't be surprised if it was the B10.

 

[Deleted member 2897]

Did the students congregate together in close proximity at the instruction of the University? Do football players congregate close together at the instruction of the football coaches?

Do the students in general engage in competitive sports that put them at risk for sudden death from myocarditis? Do football players?

You sure started drinking early today.

1) No
2) No
3) No
4) No

 

[RonJohn]

You sure started drinking early today.

1) No
2) No
3) No
4) No

So linemen are not in close proximity with other players while playing the sport? You answered no.

And football players do not play competitive sports? You answered no.

 

[chris975d]

We are about to have a revolt in NC as the chancellor at UNC-CH wants to break from the the GOP led Board of Governors' order that no single campus can react to local conditions. Chapel Hill now has three large clusters where they are conducting contact tracing. Two in resident halls and one in a frat house. If the campus goes to all on-line (this is what the faculty wants) it will be tough for UNC to play football. For what it's worth ECU and UNC-Wilmington also have clusters. What they lack is the political clout of Chapel Hill.

I’ve seen some of what you’re talking about on Twitter. Seems there is a growing voice for UNC to go all online. Does that, if it occurs, jeopardize the ACC’s football hopes?

Not safe for work headline:




online version of article:

Editorial: We all saw this coming

"The administration continues to prove they have no shame, and the bar for basic decency keeps getting lower."

www.dailytarheel.com

 

[IM79]

sudden death from myocarditis?

Question for you:

How many sudden deaths from myocarditis have we had in the US? How many under age 50 deaths/disabilities have we had from it?
Thanks.

 

[RamblinRed]

Season is going to get harder to have if college students act like college students. I think most college SA's are working really hard to have a season but they are not being helped by their fellow students.

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