But we did with dwyer. Or are you saying doing that in this offense makes it even a taller task?
Redshirt report coming
- Thread starter Eric
- Start date
But we did with dwyer. Or are you saying doing that in this offense makes it even a taller task?
Eric
Retired Co-Founder
- Messages
- 12,734
Both.
A prospect like Dwyer and us landing them is a rare thing. No matter what the offense we run, but I do think it makes it tougher with our current offense.
Whiskey_Clear
Banned
- Messages
- 10,486
Dwyer was a rare talent for GT. On par with ELI and probably better than Lavette. Nearly the CJ of the RB spot.
Whiskey_Clear
Banned
- Messages
- 10,486
Pisses me off we can't overcome negative recruiting. Stud RBs should WANT to play here. Our bad luck with Custis sure didn't help. That snake bit us twice.
iceeater1969
Helluva Engineer
- Messages
- 9,667
We have a true star capable qb that is a soph. We need to find other true star capable people around him. 1^1=1, 2^2=4, 3^ ..... You get my drift. We need multiple stars - we only get a talent like JT so often. Stars attract stars. I say give leggett a chance
techman78
Jolly Good Fellow
- Messages
- 494
- Location
- Toccoa, Ga
So far this season Laskey is averaging 86.3 yards per game. If we do indeed make another bowl game and he keeps up at the pace he is going he will rush for over 1100 yards barring injury. That's not bad numbers..... Js I think he's doing a hell of a job. Is he Dwyer? No but he does what he had to do.
Whiskey_Clear
Banned
- Messages
- 10,486
I don't think anyone is dissing Laskey. Most of us appreciate what he brings to the table. Almost sure fire positive yards every play. That is greatly beneficial in our offense. We are missing on the big explosion plays this year though....from pretty much every skill position on the team.
Whiskey_Clear
Banned
- Messages
- 10,486
Back on topic....sort of....would it also be possible to advise how some others on scout team etc. are doing? Flea's older son at DE for example? Also JHD n Whitehead (and on that note...can you confirm this thought....I believe both can play in any bowl we go to this year if grades are good...will be a new semester )
00Burdell
Helluva Engineer
- Messages
- 1,298
- Location
- Parts Unknown
CPJ recruited Dwyer while CPJ was at Navy. When CPJ took the Tech job, Dwyer was, I heard, pretty excited about it. Would he have come to Tech if CPJ were at Tech instead of Gailey? Anybody's guess but I think the answer is closer to yes than to no.
And on the subject of Laskey, let's not be too quick to look past him to the redshirt corp. Two things Laskey does that are easy to take for granted: he never loses yardage and he almost never fumbles.
I'm fine if we burn a shirt or two but talent isn't always a substitute for a guy that understands his job and performs it very well and very consistently.
Wrecking Ball
Ramblin' Wreck
- Messages
- 694
Amen. 5-1 is rare, RARE around these parts. If only the wheels hadn't come off in 2011.
Eric
Retired Co-Founder
- Messages
- 12,734
@00Burdell
If by recruited by CPJ at Navy you mean sent a offer then yes but of course he never considered them...
Disagree...Dwyer wasn't/isn't a fan of the offense. A lot closer to no than yes IMO.
For me, I haven't knocked Laskey. He's a good B Back...not great but he's very good. I want Leggett to play and be second string...for his explosiveness and to get playing time...also leave Days at A Back.
If by recruited by CPJ at Navy you mean sent a offer then yes but of course he never considered them...
Disagree...Dwyer wasn't/isn't a fan of the offense. A lot closer to no than yes IMO.
For me, I haven't knocked Laskey. He's a good B Back...not great but he's very good. I want Leggett to play and be second string...for his explosiveness and to get playing time...also leave Days at A Back.
AE 87
Helluva Engineer
- Messages
- 13,026
Fwiw, this is CPJ's philosophy, iiuc. We do not redshirt any of the best 11.
daBuzz
Ramblin' Wreck
- Messages
- 965
Yeah, Dwyer has told several people (me included) that he wouldn't have come to Tech to play in this offense.
FWIW, I think much of the negative recruiting of the running back could be fixed by simply lining the RB up 1 yard deeper and letting him stand up. Dwyer's words were STTE of "glorified f***ing fullback", IIRC. It might not do away with all of the negative perception of the B-back but it would help.
RamblinCharger
Helluva Engineer
- Messages
- 1,534
- Location
- Alabama
The negative perception of this offense as a whole could be corrected with backing the qb and ABs up 2-3 yards into the diamond. Almost every play could be run almost the same way (maybe not the midline or other qb runs) but the perception would be so much better. I'm sure blocking assignments would have to be changed and it might take Paul a year or 2 of studying and tweaking but man it could change this program completely without changing the type of recruits that we go after or without changing the staff. The flexbone is the main issue when it comes to perception. I think that, and Russell really bring our recruiting from what could be top 25-35 every year to 45-55.
Wrecking Ball
Ramblin' Wreck
- Messages
- 694
I agree with some of this, but fatty cakes woman hitter Dwyer ought to be grateful. In what other offense does he average !7! yards a carry his sophomore season? He'd have gotten AT BEST 5.5 yards a carry in a pro style. And 3.5 after his donut binge junior year.
On another note, every position requires team focus and self sacrifice in the 3-O, and if you don't want to block for someone else's yards... Well, I wish pro style offenses required such teamwork.
AE 87
Helluva Engineer
- Messages
- 13,026
There's no data to support this. We were not top 25-35 every year before CPJ.
herb
Helluva Engineer
- Messages
- 1,039
IMO, especially with running backs, if you think they are going to be really good, then you play them right away. Even if they aren't maybe fully ready at the start of the season. The really good ones are going pro after their third year, whether a rs-soph or junior.
UgaBlows
Helluva Engineer
- Messages
- 6,831
We need someone to get some experience for next year, and the offense could use a change of pace back to stick in there on occasion
- Messages
- 668
I like the idea of separating MLD and Leggett by class, if Leggett's going to stay at BB. That's assuming, of course, that MLD isn't going to himself redshirt next year.
Since we'll have no one on scholarship at the position other than MLD and CJ next year, I can't imagine that we'd be able to enjoy that luxury. Barring another BB signee in this class, the only way we could make that happen is if we moved at least one guy over from another position.
The only guy that I can think of would be Snoddy. And since we'll only have Snoddy and Andrews with any experience at AB, I don't see that happening.
So we're in a weird spot. I think getting Leggett some experience now pays off.
Since we'll have no one on scholarship at the position other than MLD and CJ next year, I can't imagine that we'd be able to enjoy that luxury. Barring another BB signee in this class, the only way we could make that happen is if we moved at least one guy over from another position.
The only guy that I can think of would be Snoddy. And since we'll only have Snoddy and Andrews with any experience at AB, I don't see that happening.
So we're in a weird spot. I think getting Leggett some experience now pays off.