It's pretty evident you are completely convinced of your opinion in this matter and that's fine. Just note that several posters disagree strongly with your assessment and leave it at that. Also note that no one claims that Tevin was the apex qb for this system.
I'd like to add one more important plus to Tevin's game, he was decisive which is HUGE in this offense. For all of Vad's superior athleticism, his lack of decisiveness was his ultimate downfall. Tevin was also tough as nails and knew how to maximize a given qb run while avoiding the devastating hit at the end. I'm not so sure I can say the same about Vad on those last 3 points.
Not what I was getting at. Part of a healthy debate is give and take. Some have the ability to recognize counterpoints from their opposition as relevant even if it's not enough to change one's mind.
There is one huge clue as to whether a play was a called dive or a give option that hasn't been mentioned so far. I can only tell if I watch the game film slowed down. All of the things mentioned so far are true and they are very good clues. To me the biggest sign is where are the QBs eyes when he is handing off? If his head is turned towards the DE or the cross charging LB as he holds the ball out for the MESH, 95% chance it is a triple. If he is looking the ball into the belly of the BB it is a called dive. Just look at which way the QB's helmet is turned. That will tell you. If he is looking at the BB on a triple, then shame on him because he ain't making no read.
Shouldn't he be looking at the DE all the time, even on called dives, so not to give it away?
I agree go with the talent around him...I like the guy who can run the offense and read the keys and makes good decisions...of course who doesnt like guys like this?
I agree my friend but even Dodd said when they ran the belly the qb would pre determine in the huddle what they would do with the ball. One thing is for sure ..if you can look at DL and DE and make a good decision you have solved most of the option.Most special qbs like Ham,Watts and others were such good athletes they could be off a tick and still make a play due to their ability.
He brought us back against Virginia Tech twice, only to lose.
Agree with yall.......if we had a decent not great but decent defense we would not be having all the discussions on PJ and our football team..we have scored enough to win but until this year........we didnt stop anybody and that puts a big strain on a offense especially the passing game from the option.TW did a good job and if he had a stronger arm maybe things would have been different but we felt that Vad would be able to run the offense like TW and throw like Payton Manning......it didnt happen.TW would not lose a game for you but his team had trouble coming from behind since folks knew we didnt pass much so they killed our running game.Defense cures a lot of ills.
I sometimes think I'm back in Statistics class...I read the words but just can't grasp the concept. Nothing wrong with the presentation or presenter - just me. Not derailing the thread - just making an observation about how a football game is played & managed is more involved than it appears to the casual observer.
Well flat lost on this one.Hope somebody can fix this for folks who know little about stats.......my point is no matter who we have played at qb ..we score enough to win but until this year,and we were better not great,our defense let us down and sorry to say offense could not score quickly so we were at a loss to get back in a game .