Potential Head Coach Hires

[33jacket]

I doubt anyone here is that naive. But the comparison that really matters is how our SA’s academically compare to the mean NCAA football player. We routinely have one of, if not the, highest class SAT average in college football. That ain’t no coincidence. Relative to the rest of college football, we’re the smart kids.

True. Self imposed too

 

[Madison Grant]

I don't think there is a desire in the posts to 'educate' sidewalk fans. The whole discussion was started by a post claiming that there is not a difference in curriculum between Stanford and GT. I think all of the posts were down a rabbit hole(at least for this thread) from that assertion, not something aimed at being snobbish towards people who didn't attend GT.

Well, just for the record, I ain't the one who said Tech and Stanford are the same academically. I was saying we can have similar FOOTBALL success being attractive to top SAs, as opposed to the rent-an-NFL-draft-pick system at factories. The people saying our situation is TOTALLY different from Stanford's are overselling that, as if they are like UGA and Clemson. That's not true.

 

[Oldgoldandwhite]

True. Self imposed too

Yep! Just look at a group picture after the game compared to an SEC group shot.

 

[TampaGT]

Digging deep: There’s also a certain game played on a certain date by certain schools that have coaches that have been known to ask for confidentiality until after that certain game is played.

I’m in that same hole digging with you. That makes sense with the assistant coaches recruiting and commit not backing down.

 

[AlabamaBuzz]

The thing is I'm guessing some of this microdetail is aimed to 'educate' the sidewalk fan peons who, frankly, don't need the education on it. Yes, I know Stanford and Duke have easier liberal arts degrees without calculus. Yes, I know Georgia Tech has much more limited majors. Yes, I know Georgia Tech requires a real world work ethic to get through. But the recruits we're poaching from UCF and USF because our top targets are going to South Carolina and Tennessee don't have any different of an academic profile than those higher ranked we lose out in, I guarantee. CPJ was able to get 86% of his players the academic support they needed to get through Tech. 'We can do that'.

While I personally didn't go to Tech my brother did. I understand. It took him 5+ years to graduate with ME. This is a guy with a 130+ IQ. He had to transfer to Auburn for a quarter to get his GPA back up. So I'm not ignorant of the things you're talking about.

I think our fans (sidewalk and alums) in general are very bright, so I am not sure "educate" is the right word, as I would not want to talk down to anyone. Everyone has value. Your synopsis is well versed, and for my part, I just wasn't sure that all of our fans know that a STEM school is really not comparable to a high end private college. But, if everyone already knows, my bad.

 

[AlabamaBuzz]

I’m in that same hole digging with you. That makes sense with the assistant coaches recruiting and commit not backing down.

Let's hope there is some fire where there is smoke.

 

[CuseJacket]

Re: Geoff Collins, if he becomes the guy, some interesting nuggets off the bat for 2019:

• Assuming Collins is doing bowl prep, that means he's already started scouting Duke, whether he coaches the bowl game or not.
  
• We play at Temple. That's an opponent who would have to transition, if the hire doesn't come from within.
• We play at home vs USF. Collins knows USF already. Temple beat USF in Philly 27-17 just a few weeks ago. Temple lost at USF in 2017.

 

[GT_EE78]

Trevor Lawrence played plenty, and James Graham played very little. I don't even understand your point any more.

just that he would have surpassed the others to become starter if he was that good at that position. regardless of the new offense he's in a good spot and could star at any one of several positions.

 

[MikeJackets1967]

Re: Geoff Collins, if he becomes the guy, some interesting nuggets off the bat for 2019:

• Assuming Collins is doing bowl prep, that means he's already started scouting Duke, whether he coaches the bowl game or not.
  
• We play at Temple. That's an opponent who would have to transition, if the hire doesn't come from within.
• We play at home vs USF. Collins knows USF already. Temple beat USF in Philly 27-17 just a few weeks ago. Temple lost at USF in 2017.

Hopefully Coach Cutcliffe will retire following Duke's bowl game with Temple

 

[cmathis]

I’m trying to read the tea leaves like everybody else. What do y’all make of the fact it appears as if all the assistant coaches are still going full throttle on the recruiting trail and no commits have pulled back. On top of that, we added a commit. I think it leads to 2 possible candidates(not going to say who or why I think right now to get unbiased opinions). How do y’all read the assistant coach and commits. (Lead to candidate X or doesn’t mean anything in terms of the next HC.

I personally don't think it means anything, other than the coaches just making sure our voice is still out there while we're in this kind of limbo. To be honest, I would be ok with it if this is the route we chose, but all the other alternatives excite me a little bit more. Even if it means a few down years.

 

[Madison Grant]

Hopefully Coach Cutcliffe will retire following Duke's bowl game with Temple

Nah, I want to catch him one time without that bye week he politics for every year, and send him off with a proper butt-kicking.

 

[MikeJackets1967]

Nah, I want to catch him one time without that bye week he politics for every year, and send him off with a proper butt-kicking.

That would be sweet

 

[dressedcheeseside]

True. Self imposed too

I keep hearing the BOR controls curriculum?

 

[Madison Grant]

That would be sweet

Still haven't forgotten the gator roll they put on JTs ankle in 2014 too.

 

[33jacket]

I keep hearing the BOR controls curriculum?

We control sat levels of SA admission dude! Regardless of cirriculum. Then someone will bring in that our school is hard so we need higher sat. Yet. Retention has doubled in 10 years. Meaning its actually lightened up. Weed out is not the same. Therefore we can go back to what we recruited 15 years ago and still be fine. We were fine then. We will be fine now.

Plus we have a president that instagrams dont kill yourself over finals videos now. Tech has become a bear hug school. There is no way they will allow a underprivileged SA fail out anymore. Abuse the system. Gt athletics needs to get balls

Also to note. BOR doesnt control pre requisite and elective requirements. All college within the school mandated

 

[dressedcheeseside]

Well, just for the record, I ain't the one who said Tech and Stanford are the same academically. I was saying we can have similar FOOTBALL success being attractive to top SAs, as opposed to the rent-an-NFL-draft-pick system at factories. The people saying our situation is TOTALLY different from Stanford's are overselling that, as if they are like UGA and Clemson. That's not true.

We both go after smart kids. The big difference is they have more an easier majors. Believe it or not, all smart kids or not interested in stem. Another big difference is the prestige factor is heavily weighted in their favor. Another huge factor is their recruiting budget dwarfs ours. Add that all up and we have a much tougher row to hoe.

 

[33jacket]

We both go after smart kids. The big difference is they have more an easier majors. Believe it or not, all smart kids or not interested in stem. Another big difference is the prestige factor is heavily weighted in their favor. Another huge factor is their recruiting budget dwarfs ours. Add that all up and we have a much tougher row to hoe.

And. We also cut over 50 percent of our recruiting pool off the bat. Add that in too!!!!

 

[dressedcheeseside]

We control sat levels of SA admission dude! Regardless of cirriculum. Then someone will bring in that our school is hard so we need higher sat. Yet. Retention has doubled in 10 years. Meaning its actually lightened up. Weed out is not the same. Therefore we can go back to what we recruited 15 years ago and still be fine. We were fine then. We will be fine now.

Plus we have a president that instagrams dont kill yourself over finals videos now. Tech has become a bear hug school. There is no way they will allow a underprivileged SA fail out anymore. Abuse the system. Gt athletics needs to get balls

Also to note. BOR doesnt control pre requisite and elective requirements. All college within the school mandated

The last few times we tried to go with academic exceptions we got bitten in the *** big time. I think that’s why CPJ went full bore towards the opposite end of the spectrum. I think that’s the way to go with maybe a few exceptions mixed in. either way we’re still going to need twice or three times the recruiting budget.

Getting our *** landed on academic probation has really scared the administration. It doesn’t matter whose fault it was. I highly doubt they’re going to loosen entrance requirements for SA’s anytime soon.

 

[dressedcheeseside]

TStan looks like he’s keeping his word about beating the bushes. For all you Collins fans out there, he has his opportunity to win the job. Who knows, maybe there’s somebody better suited?

 

[g0lftime]

The top 2 quarterbacks in the 1991 class were Heath Shuler and Donnie Davis. Donnie Davis' high school team beat Heath Shuler's in the 1990 North Carolina high school football championship game.

They were AA class. Donnie set all kinds of national records passing at Burlington Cummings HS. He got caught up in the BL debacle.