#Postgame GT 9 - UVA 16

BuzzStone

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Quitting watching a team to protest a "quitter"...

Ironic


Call it what you want, the program is in a spiral and has been for years. I will jump off that ride.

You wonder why all of our talent left? Same reason the fans are leaving. Refusing to support a cancerous program is not the same thing as letting your entire team down by quitting in the middle of the game.
 

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Call it what you want, the program is in a spiral and has been for years. I will jump off that ride.

You wonder why all of our talent left? Same reason the fans are leaving. Refusing to support a cancerous program is not the same thing as letting your entire team down by quitting in the middle of the game.
Well it was the end of the game, so...

Sassy Good Bye GIF
 

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Call it what you want, the program is in a spiral and has been for years. I will jump off that ride.

You wonder why all of our talent left? Same reason the fans are leaving. Refusing to support a cancerous program is not the same thing as letting your entire team down by quitting in the middle of the game.
Who quit in the middle of the game? I think I missed something.
 

85Escape

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How is admitting what he did and acknowledging it was a bad look not owning up to it?
Admitting you've done something is not the same as taking ownership for it. He didn't say I screwed up and shouldn't have done that. Instead, he said it was a 'bad look' and 'whatever'. By saying those things he was basically saying that what he did wasn't wrong, but he understands how people might not see it that way. That is not owning the mistake.

Owning the mistake would require him to say "I screwed that up, for sure. Things were happening fast and when I didn't see anyone open I gave up. I shouldn't have done that, I needed to give my mates a chance to do something amazing. I'll get it right the next time."

Regardless, it's done and it's time to move on. The young man made a mistake and will hopefully learn from it.
 

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Call it what you want, the program is in a spiral and has been for years. I will jump off that ride.

You wonder why all of our talent left? Same reason the fans are leaving. Refusing to support a cancerous program is not the same thing as letting your entire team down by quitting in the middle of the game.

That's your prerogative, but now you cannot call Gibson a quitter without being a complete hypocrite...
 

jojatk

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Call it what you want, the program is in a spiral and has been for years. I will jump off that ride.

You wonder why all of our talent left? Same reason the fans are leaving. Refusing to support a cancerous program is not the same thing as letting your entire team down by quitting in the middle of the game.
Actually it kind of is the same thing. Not even kind of. It’s exactly the same thing. It’s quitting on the program right when it needs you the most.

That’s fine. It’s your choice and I well understand feeling like you don’t want to keep supporting the team. Just don’t pat yourself on the back feeling like you’re doing anything better or different than the kid you’re criticizing.
 

iceeater1969

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Call it what you want, the program is in a spiral and has been for years. I will jump off that ride.

You wonder why all of our talent left? Same reason the fans are leaving. Refusing to support a cancerous program is not the same thing as letting your entire team down by quitting in the middle of the game.
Sorry to see you quit the swarm.

Can u post to your self if you self ignore?
 

GT33

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Quitting watching a team to protest a "quitter"...

Ironic
I had not considered quitting because back in the day my Father would completely destroy me if I even insinuated I was quitting something I had volunteered to start. This however presents an interesting dilemma.

A disgruntled fan:

a. quits going to games
b. quits watching games
c. quits bitching about games he went to or watched
d. quits buying tickets or donating

Is there a “big quitter” tag you get for more egregious quitting? This kid quit on the game’s last play. To be fair, nobody asked him if he quit earlier in the game so that is possible. However, which one of the above is equivalent to Saturday?

What do we do with fans that have quit? Do we welcome them back when we start winning again or kick them off the fan team forever? Does it matter the level to which they’ve quit? Let’s say they don’t watch 1 game because they played golf instead. Does it matter or is it a cumulative thing?

What do we call the other players that quit during individual plays because they’re tired and loaf, don’t think the ball is coming to them so they stop running, fall down instead of fighting because they’re only going to get an extra yard or two?

Seems like we need to figure this out asap
 

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What do we do with fans that have quit? Do we welcome them back when we start winning again or kick them off the fan team forever? Does it matter the level to which they’ve quit? Let’s say they don’t watch 1 game because they played golf instead. Does it matter or is it a cumulative thing?
Once I get my scholly and NIL money for being a fan then you can hold me to the same standards. :D

But since I pay to be a fan I'll come and go as I please...and frankly we need all the customers we can get.
 

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Kid brings home an F on an exam. I don’t have to have 24 hr a day surveillance on him to know he didn’t study. I’m not that gullible.
Nah that's not accurate. I failed a number of tests at GT where I had studied for hours and I just didn't get the material. I didn't fail many across all my years as a student and for sure a couple of them were totally because I didn't study. My point is simply that the results don't always tell you the path that got a person there. Not saying you're wrong, just that you MAY not be right.
 

jojatk

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What do we do with fans that have quit? Do we welcome them back when we start winning again or kick them off the fan team forever? Does it matter the level to which they’ve quit? Let’s say they don’t watch 1 game because they played golf instead. Does it matter or is it a cumulative thing?
I don't try to judge how anyone expresses their fanhood. If you show up in any fashion and cheer for the Jackets then I appreciate that.

However, where I do have issues is being a hypocrite and not recognizing it. So when someone says "I'm fed up because player X quit so I'm quitting watching the team if he's out there but I'm better than him" that's BS. That person should just own that he/she is doing the same thing the kid did. But either way I'll still be glad that person spends any time rooting for the Jackets. Beggars can't be choosers.
 

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I had not considered quitting because back in the day my Father would completely destroy me if I even insinuated I was quitting something I had volunteered to start. This however presents an interesting dilemma.

A disgruntled fan:

a. quits going to games
b. quits watching games
c. quits bitching about games he went to or watched
d. quits buying tickets or donating

Is there a “big quitter” tag you get for more egregious quitting? This kid quit on the game’s last play. To be fair, nobody asked him if he quit earlier in the game so that is possible. However, which one of the above is equivalent to Saturday?

What do we do with fans that have quit? Do we welcome them back when we start winning again or kick them off the fan team forever? Does it matter the level to which they’ve quit? Let’s say they don’t watch 1 game because they played golf instead. Does it matter or is it a cumulative thing?

What do we call the other players that quit during individual plays because they’re tired and loaf, don’t think the ball is coming to them so they stop running, fall down instead of fighting because they’re only going to get an extra yard or two?

Seems like we need to figure this out asap

As far as I am concerned Gibson isn't a quitter. He owned up to his mistake. He will take his lumps from the coaches and fellow players in practice. If he walked off the team, then he'd be a quitter.

People make mistakes. We should probably be grateful we aren't constantly reminded of the mistakes we've made in our lives. Gibson is a young man playing a game for our entertainment. Nothing he did last Thursday will matter in the grand scheme of things other than fueling the spiteful diatribe of keyboard warriors on a message board. How do we keep what transpired last Thursday in context? That's what we need to figure out ASAP.
 

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Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but an observation I have made from the past few games is that other team's are getting really good at timing our snap count. It seems like whenever they bring pressure, the rushers are running up to the line and engaging our o-line right at the moment of snap. Am I the only one who is seeing this? Duke was really good at it the other week, and uva had times where it completely blew up the play. Our pre-snap motion doesn't seem to confuse anyone, but rather provide a timing mechanism of the snap for the defense.
 

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Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but an observation I have made from the past few games is that other team's are getting really good at timing our snap count. It seems like whenever they bring pressure, the rushers are running up to the line and engaging our o-line right at the moment of snap. Am I the only one who is seeing this? Duke was really good at it the other week, and uva had times where it completely blew up the play. Our pre-snap motion doesn't seem to confuse anyone, but rather provide a timing mechanism of the snap for the defense.
I agree. That motion seems to be more of a timing for them on our snap. I've thought the exact thing. At the very least we need to have a called play to draw them off-sides a time or two a game using that to keep them honest.
 

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Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but an observation I have made from the past few games is that other team's are getting really good at timing our snap count. It seems like whenever they bring pressure, the rushers are running up to the line and engaging our o-line right at the moment of snap. Am I the only one who is seeing this? Duke was really good at it the other week, and uva had times where it completely blew up the play. Our pre-snap motion doesn't seem to confuse anyone, but rather provide a timing mechanism of the snap for the defense.
I did a double take. Had to make sure this was a current post.
We used to blame A Back motion for doing this when we were failing to block people too...

I think it may be more a function of just getting pushed around up front. Guys are standing in our backfield because we're slow off the ball and missing assignments, or just getting run over. But it sure looks like they are getting an unfair advantage somehow...
 
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