Most college teams do this. You don't know which high schoolers will be taken in the draft and you also don't know which of your players will be taken in the draft. So, teams sign a lot of players to make up the difference and then fall ball is basically tryouts.
Are you related to Danny Hall? He has earned all the accolades thrown his way as well all the criticism he is getting.
I'd agree but change "all" to "most" in both instances.
You’re just a little bit late to this party….
I agree with you. I just don't like people claiming a coach said something to a player or lied to someone without specifics being applied to those statements. We all know how the internet can be used to fit someone's agenda. In the past people were held to a standard where they had to verify their claims with facts to support those claims. In this case that is all I was asking for. If someone was lied to or promises not kept then tell us who was lied to and by whom. Otherwise why should anyone believe what you say is true.I'm not related to any coaches but I also don't want them unfairly disparaged by unsubstantiated claims.
You not going to get anyone to name names publicly when it was told to them in a private conversation, no way Jose'. Good luck on fact checking any message board.
Fred I respect your position and loyalty to the program, but Danny Hall didn't build the foundation of this program. He inherited a great program and managed to have some success early in his time at Tech. He has managed to squander all that work Morris did and now we have a subpar program that is excited to get a 3rd seed in the fing Athens regional. The program is in desperate need of a change. Not sure Ramsey is the answer either. Only gotten worse with him in the dugout also. Blow it up!!!
I agree - it's a hard balance, but it is also a dirty game where everyone is out for themselves - especially at the higher levels. (SEC ACC) I just hate to see young kids having to go through the dirty side of the "business" but at this level, it is what it is. As for Kovala, he's gone, so they need many, many pitchers to fill all the roles that graduated or left. And one of the pitching coaches quit as well. Deck quit to go to Missouri State.
These are not "lies" - they are recruiting tools to get players to their program. ALL schools do this. They go on visits, meet with staff and the kids are told what "their role will be" and how they will be the starting this or that or pitch on weekends for example. It is not a lie and every player that has been recruited at any college level - including football - has received these texts. I have seen them from MANY players and every player you ask will tell you the same thing. Players pick the school based on how well the program is sold to them with facilities, playing time, their role as a player, etc. GT has some of the the worst facilities. They have no meeting room and no players area. GA State and GA Southern both have these and they are in the Sunbelt. GT is behind in all areas. Sorry, but it is facts. Until they invest in these areas, recruits will continue to slip away.
Well, Deck McGuire just quit, so there is a start.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that Deck McGuire was an unpaid "volunteer" coach last season while he finished working on his degree. He was what is called at the major league level the bullpen coach, and an unpaid one at that. Assuming that he has now finished the academic side, it is normal for him to move on to an opportunity where he actually draws a paycheck. I wouldn't call that quitting, but rather things playing out as they should and a young coach moving up to more responsibility. TBH, it was what I was hoping would happen with James Ramsey a few years ago, i.e, CJR taking a head coaching job at a lower level school (Kennessaw State was rumored briefly when they had an opening 2 or 3 years ago), proving that he can run a program successfully (or not), and then returning to Tech when the time is right, but alas that hasn't happened.
I understand your point of view, and I agree....to a point. Deck moving on is a good thing for everyone. Deck was well liked. I wish him the best. My position was meant that maybe another coach could come in that could help turn the program around and keep players. I wasn't being negative, as I was looking at an opportunity for new options for GT. Kovala left due to scholarship. He did not want to leave. I stated that. Other pitchers have left bc they did not like the pitching coach and the toxicity in the coaching staff right now. We need new coaches to bring high standards and build a trust with players. That is lacking right now and kids are feeling abused and unwanted.
You make me think I need to be clear. I'm ready for a change. Eager for one. We can pick nits over how good/bad Hall has been over 30+ years. We won't agree. And that's quite alright. I'm really more concerned about the future.
You are the one that started all this by saying a player was promised something and it wasn't followed through. Now you are saying they aren't lies. Make up your mind.
Completely agree with you. Hall did Deck a favor by putting him on the staff and allowing him to learn for a year so he could find opportunities for a paying position like Missouri State. This is one of the reasons former players love him. But saying he quit better fits some people's agendas. I would also add that players who don't get the playing time they hoped for often don't like their position coach. That's not unique to Tech.
