hwdgeplague
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2 orange bowls. Nugh said.
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I don’t know if you meant to reply to me or not, but I definitely wasn’t the person who said what was in that quote.You correctly note we are not on the level of Clemson and Uga. What you miss is that, according to recruiting rankings and/or $, we are also not on the same level as any of our Coastal opponents. It’s not a given that we should beat UNC, UVA, VT, Pitt, or Duke.
I don’t know if you meant to reply to me or not, but I definitely wasn’t the person who said what was in that quote.
And people want to complain on here when anybody complains about CPJ even though we are fighting to make a bowl gameAnd people want to complain about CPJ as a coach.
We are fighting to make a bowl game? Isn’t alot of college football doing the same? Like the team with twice the talent that we are about to play? Or how about the VT team with more talent? Or FSU, Stanford, Colorado, Texas A&M, and South Carolina? I get people want to win but when we are on pace with the majority of college football and have had more success over the past decade than about 80 percent of college football, are we really looking at how we compare to other college teams (like we should imo) or are we looking at what we want to see which is not even on par with about 80 percent or so of college football? There is 25 bowl eligible power 5 teams out of 64 teams.And people want to complain on here when anybody complains about CPJ even though we are fighting to make a bowl game
Sorry but this post is way too rational and coherent.We are fighting to make a bowl game? Isn’t alot of college football doing the same? Like the team with twice the talent that we are about to play? Or how about the VT team with more talent? Or FSU, Stanford, Colorado, Texas A&M, and South Carolina? I get people want to win but when we are on pace with the majority of college football and have had more success over the past decade than about 80 percent of college football, are we really looking at how we compare to other college teams (like we should imo) or are we looking at what we want to see which is not even on par with about 80 percent or so of college football? There is 25 bowl eligible power 5 teams out of 64 teams.
We are 5-4. Yes we are fighting to make a bowl gameWe are fighting to make a bowl game? Isn’t alot of college football doing the same? Like the team with twice the talent that we are about to play? Or how about the VT team with more talent? Or FSU, Stanford, Colorado, Texas A&M, and South Carolina? I get people want to win but when we are on pace with the majority of college football and have had more success over the past decade than about 80 percent of college football, are we really looking at how we compare to other college teams (like we should imo) or are we looking at what we want to see which is not even on par with about 80 percent or so of college football? There is 25 bowl eligible power 5 teams out of 64 teams.
We are 5-4. Yes we are fighting to make a bowl game
And you totally missed the point of what he said. Stick to your uniform opinions, which I wholeheartedly agree with, and get off the hate-CPJ train.We are 5-4. Yes we are fighting to make a bowl game
I will still be on the side of firing him but I would rather see him leave this year in his own. I doubt he will reguardless of how we finish, I don’t think he would of left on his own even if we would have won 3 games, but no matter how we finish I think it’s time for a change. Dave Aranda, and Brent Venables would be great names to hire but I don’t believe they’re realistic names and that’s why I am all in for Brent Key.So if Tech winds up 9-4/8-5 are all you naysayers still calling for PJ to be fired?
I would rather have up and comers(like Scott Satterfield or Jason Candle) who very well could leave if they turn GT around than have a retread who would stay If the up and comer head coach turned GT around and left for a higher paying job i would say thanks to him for turning GT around and wish him good luck with his new jobI will still be on the side of firing him but I would rather see him leave this year in his own. I doubt he will reguardless of how we finish, I don’t think he would of left on his own even if we would have won 3 games, but no matter how we finish I think it’s time for a change. Dave Aranda, and Brent Venables would be great names to hire but I don’t believe they’re realistic names and that’s why I am all in for Brent Key.
He would take the job and if he made us great again I don’t believe he would leave. He could be the same type of coach and Dabo. Hell of a recruiter, we’re talking about a guy that Nick Saban made room to hire in a already full staff because of his skills, that says something. Great recruiter is what we need to help keep these players in the state of Georgia at home. UGA can’t have em all and there’s to many other out of state schools cherry picking the state. He would keep a lot more the kids home that don’t go to UGA and I believe he would even get some of the guys UGA was after not just what they left for us to get. There’s so many 4 and 5 star guys that we need to get that go to Alabama and Auburn and Clemson and the florida schools and Ohio state, etc.
Dabo had held no other position besides a position coach so saying that’s a knock on key only being an OC 2014-2015 isn’t a good reason not to hire him. He does like Dabo and brings in a really good OC and DC that can also recruit and bring in a good scheme and he does play the CEO role. It works. If he was to bring on Godsey I don’t think it should be for the OC job. I only say his name because I know a lot of people have thrown his name out there.
No matter how we finish off this year we’re not going to get any better than 8 to 9 wins and that’s not going to get us back to being acc champs. A true recruiter like Key will go to these kids houses and sell GT and sell the academic level while also getting to play football. Going pro with a Helluva education. He won’t demand a high salary to begin with. Winning championships begins with recruiting the players to do it and I think he can get that job done along with brining the right staff in to help him do it.
Brining in an alumni as coach doesn’t always work but the other times it does and if anyone from tech can make it happen it’ll be him. He’s fired up and ready to be a head coach and would be thrilled to make it happen at GT and would have the kids pumped to do it.
Yea we would have 2-3 down years and because of the type of players we have it may be a more ugly rebuild than some other schools but it’s going to happen eventually reguardless. He could take the best guys on the team that fit his offensive and defensive schemes and tweak his schemes a little to help them and help the team until his guys are here and then full on to what he wants to do. I respect CPJ and he’s done a well job it’s just time for a change
I get where you are coming from but there is no facts to back this up. CPJ has one of the best track records around, it’s the offense imo that keeps him from getting the “bigger” job. It’s also been said that CPJ had an offer from Auburn so there’s that as well.I think you are projecting your view of the world on to everyone else. Paul Johnson would be coaching at Florida if he had the track record to do so and the good fortune to get an offer, just as Mike Leach would be coaching at Texas if those same factors were in play. They are both very fortunate to be where they are at making millions of dollars doing what they love. I'm sure both feel they are capable of doing very well where they are at despite the obstacles they have to deal with. There are obstacles every where. Both these guys have personalities and other characteristics that would not work at a lot of places. So don't feel sorry for them. I'm sure they do not feel sorry for themselves.
Go Jackets!
I'm sorry but I can't dislike this enough. I think Key would be a good coach, but if we get to 8-5 or 9-4 this year then I definitely want CPJ back. I want him back if we just make a bowl because CNW has shown improvements on D and I think CPJ deserves the chance to see what he can do with a good DC. We will also be returning a lot of contributors and some of our younger, more talented players will be getting more playing time. Also, Key was a good recruiter at UCF and is a good recruiter at Alabama, but they are totally different animals than Tech. He would probably still bring in good classes, but we would still lose out on players to Clemson, Alabama, Auburn, Tennesse, FSU, Florida and South Carolina. I also hate the perception that it's going to be a 2 or 3 year rebuild once CPJ leaves. We transitioned from a pro style offense to the spread option and we became one of the best offenses in the country. We can easily transition to a spread, Air raid, or Run and shoot. I'm not saying that it will be perfect right out of the box, but I think that we would be ok.I will still be on the side of firing him but I would rather see him leave this year in his own. I doubt he will reguardless of how we finish, I don’t think he would of left on his own even if we would have won 3 games, but no matter how we finish I think it’s time for a change. Dave Aranda, and Brent Venables would be great names to hire but I don’t believe they’re realistic names and that’s why I am all in for Brent Key.
He would take the job and if he made us great again I don’t believe he would leave. He could be the same type of coach and Dabo. Hell of a recruiter, we’re talking about a guy that Nick Saban made room to hire in a already full staff because of his skills, that says something. Great recruiter is what we need to help keep these players in the state of Georgia at home. UGA can’t have em all and there’s to many other out of state schools cherry picking the state. He would keep a lot more the kids home that don’t go to UGA and I believe he would even get some of the guys UGA was after not just what they left for us to get. There’s so many 4 and 5 star guys that we need to get that go to Alabama and Auburn and Clemson and the florida schools and Ohio state, etc.
Dabo had held no other position besides a position coach so saying that’s a knock on key only being an OC 2014-2015 isn’t a good reason not to hire him. He does like Dabo and brings in a really good OC and DC that can also recruit and bring in a good scheme and he does play the CEO role. It works. If he was to bring on Godsey I don’t think it should be for the OC job. I only say his name because I know a lot of people have thrown his name out there.
No matter how we finish off this year we’re not going to get any better than 8 to 9 wins and that’s not going to get us back to being acc champs. A true recruiter like Key will go to these kids houses and sell GT and sell the academic level while also getting to play football. Going pro with a Helluva education. He won’t demand a high salary to begin with. Winning championships begins with recruiting the players to do it and I think he can get that job done along with brining the right staff in to help him do it.
Brining in an alumni as coach doesn’t always work but the other times it does and if anyone from tech can make it happen it’ll be him. He’s fired up and ready to be a head coach and would be thrilled to make it happen at GT and would have the kids pumped to do it.
Yea we would have 2-3 down years and because of the type of players we have it may be a more ugly rebuild than some other schools but it’s going to happen eventually reguardless. He could take the best guys on the team that fit his offensive and defensive schemes and tweak his schemes a little to help them and help the team until his guys are here and then full on to what he wants to do. I respect CPJ and he’s done a well job it’s just time for a change
If GT wins 7-8 games and 8-9 after Bowl Game i think Paul Johnson will probably be coaching GT until 2020 or 2021.I'm sorry but I can't dislike this enough. I think Key would be a good coach, but if we get to 8-5 or 9-4 this year then I definitely want CPJ back. I want him back if we just make a bowl because CNW has shown improvements on D and I think CPJ deserves the chance to see what he can do with a good DC. We will also be returning a lot of contributors and some of our younger, more talented players will be getting more playing time. Also, Key was a good recruiter at UCF and is a good recruiter at Alabama, but they are totally different animals than Tech. He would probably still bring in good classes, but we would still lose out on players to Clemson, Alabama, Auburn, Tennesse, FSU, Florida and South Carolina. I also hate the perception that it's going to be a 2 or 3 year rebuild once CPJ leaves. We transitioned from a pro style offense to the spread option and we became one of the best offenses in the country. We can easily transition to a spread, Air raid, or Run and shoot. I'm not saying that it will be perfect right out of the box, but I think that we would be ok.
Im not anti CPJ. Im anti barely going to bowl games and being averageAnd you totally missed the point of what he said. Stick to your uniform opinions, which I wholeheartedly agree with, and get off the hate-CPJ train.
You would be anti most every college team then.Im not anti CPJ. Im anti barely going to bowl games and being average