Las Vegas Mass Casualty Attack

[WreckinGT]

Stop lying.

Think about it. The day of and the day after the shooting, people reported that the officer did not come into contact with the shooting. Why they said that, I don't know. Could be the officer was embarrassed he was not there. There was an off-duty officer there for a different reason (unarmed) who ran around and tried to help the victims, and he never saw the shooter I believe. could be confusion with his story, I don't know. But FIVE DAYS later is the official statement from this lady.

I'm not calling anybody a liar, I'm saying that the information they had at the time was incorrect. This lady was pretty definitive in her statement. What someone had said 5 days earlier as you quoted is exactly the point I was trying to make. That information has since been corrected.

I do find it odd that there has not been an official statement from the officer or law enforcement. I can only trust that to mean they are trying to hide or embarrassed or avoid lawsuits.

Oh give me a break. Here is what she said again:

"I have been told by a couple of sources that the SRO was either called off campus responding to something happening or it could have been his day off,” she said. “They are stretched very thin."

She doesn't know if he was there, or if he wasn't there, why he wasn't there. There is nothing definitive about that statement at all and she isn't in a position to know anyways. She is just regurgitating what she had heard from someone unknown. The only definitive statements have been made were by the Sheriff and BSO officials who both said flat out that he was there. You think they are lying.

 

[Deleted member 2897]

Nope. But I'm more ok with one person at most dying than 17.

This statement is pure ignorance. Like, world class ignorance.

 

[Deleted member 2897]

Oh give me a break. Here is what she said again:

"I have been told by a couple of sources that the SRO was either called off campus responding to something happening or it could have been his day off,” she said. “They are stretched very thin."

She doesn't know if he was there, or if he wasn't there, why he wasn't there. There is nothing definitive about that statement at all and she isn't in a position to know anyways. She is just regurgitating what she had heard from someone unknown. The only definitive statements have been made were by the Sheriff and BSO officials who both said flat out that he was there. You think they are lying.

Stop lying.

I specifically said I do NOT think the Sheriff was lying. Stop saying what I'm not saying.

FIVE DAYS LATER this is the school district's official position on the shooting. You can't provide one single shred of evidence the officer was on site. Not what he was doing, not why he couldn't find any shooter, no single child that he helped, NOTHING. Because he wasn't there. At least according to the School District's most recent statement. Stop relying on a statement taken right after the shooting that has been revised. And stop lying about me.

Now if the statement gets revised again and we find out the officer actually was there (which is still possible), my original statement stands - FIRE HIM, and replace him with a competent officer.

 

[WreckinGT]

This statement is pure ignorance. Like, world class ignorance.

You think there is something wrong with attempting to limit casualties? Hey, I can kill a person with my bare hands, therefore Nuclear Weapons should be legal. Is that your line of thinking?

 

[Deleted member 2897]

You think there is something wrong with attempting to limit casualties? Hey, I can kill a person with my bare hands, therefore Nuclear Weapons should be legal. Is that your line of thinking?

Stop putting words into my mouth. Did you not just read above about the knife attack that killed 33 people and wounded 143? Of course that is an outlier, but so is killing 17 with a gun.

 

[WreckinGT]

Stop lying.

I specifically said I do NOT think the Sheriff was lying. Stop saying what I'm not saying.

FIVE DAYS LATER this is the school district's official position on the shooting. You can't provide one single shred of evidence the officer was on site. Not what he was doing, not why he couldn't find any shooter, no single child that he helped, NOTHING. Because he wasn't there. At least according to the School District's most recent statement. Stop relying on a statement taken right after the shooting that has been revised. And stop lying about me.

Now if the statement gets revised again and we find out the officer actually was there (which is still possible), my original statement stands - FIRE HIM, and replace him with a competent officer.

That wasn't the school districts position at all, that was what one person said that they heard and it contradicts what others, who would know better, have claimed. Do you have any articles that show that the Sheriff and BSO officials were mistaken in their original claims and are now saying that he wasn't there? If not then why am I supposed to think they were lying? What made this random lady the beacon of truth over others who were closer to the incident?

 

[Deleted member 2897]

Stop lying.

I specifically said I do NOT think the Sheriff was lying. Stop saying what I'm not saying.

FIVE DAYS LATER this is the school district's official position on the shooting. You can't provide one single shred of evidence the officer was on site. Not what he was doing, not why he couldn't find any shooter, no single child that he helped, NOTHING. Because he wasn't there. At least according to the School District's most recent statement. Stop relying on a statement taken right after the shooting that has been revised. And stop lying about me.

Now if the statement gets revised again and we find out the officer actually was there (which is still possible), my original statement stands - FIRE HIM, and replace him with a competent officer.

PLEASE READ THIS ARTICLE:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/21/us/police-security-florida-shooting.html

This is in the last day. Note that the officer has been identified and was spotted outside of the school in the parking lot. Notice other officers' quotes about where the assigned officer should have been. Putting all these statements from the district and witnesses together, I bet you this poor bastard stepped away for a coffee or something when the shooting happened. Sad.

Notice down below other officers, including off duty ones, who rushed into the school to help. Not a single peep from the guy who was actually assigned to be there. Poor bastard.

 

[Deleted member 2897]

That wasn't the school districts position at all, that was what one person said that they heard and it contradicts what others, who would know better, have claimed. Do you have any articles that show that the Sheriff and BSO officials were mistaken in their original claims and are now saying that he wasn't there? If not then why am I supposed to think they were lying? What made this random lady the beacon of truth over others who were closer to the incident?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. READ.

 

[WreckinGT]

Stop putting words into my mouth. Did you not just read above about the knife attack that killed 33 people and wounded 143? Of course that is an outlier, but so is killing 17 with a gun.

Have you really convinced yourself that a guy running into a school with a knife is going to kill just as many people if not more than a guy with an AR-15 and tons of ammunition?

 

[Deleted member 2897]

Have you really convinced yourself that a guy running into a school with a knife is going to kill just as many people if not more than a guy with an AR-15 and tons of ammunition?

Why do you have a fetish with putting words into my mouth that I don't say? Its really creepy. You seem mentally unstable. Seriously dude.

 

[WreckinGT]

PLEASE READ THIS ARTICLE:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/21/us/police-security-florida-shooting.html

This is in the last day. Note that the officer has been identified and was spotted outside of the school in the parking lot. Notice other officers' quotes about where the assigned officer should have been. Putting all these statements from the district and witnesses together, I bet you this poor bastard stepped away for a coffee or something when the shooting happened. Sad.

Notice down below other officers, including off duty ones, who rushed into the school to help. Not a single peep from the guy who was actually assigned to be there. Poor bastard.

So you accept now that he was on campus? Glad we cleared that up .

 

[Deleted member 2897]

So you accept now that he was on campus? Glad we cleared that up .

You simply don't know how to read do you. And your fetish putting words into my mouth that I did not say continues. Creepy.

 

[WreckinGT]

Why do you have a fetish with putting words into my mouth that I don't say? Its really creepy. You seem mentally unstable. Seriously dude.

So you acknowledge that a guy with a knife probably won't do nearly as much damage as a guy with an AR-15?

 

[WreckinGT]

You simply don't know how to read do you. And your fetish putting words into my mouth that I did not say continues. Creepy.

You do know that the parking lot of a school is still school grounds, don't you? You were claiming like the random lady that he was taking a day off or was responding to something off campus. This new article completely refutes that.

 

[Deleted member 2897]

So you acknowledge that a guy with a knife probably won't do nearly as much damage as a guy with an AR-15?

As I said below, in a single attack, the odds are lower. But its not impossible. I think you are trying to split hairs to be cute though and missing the larger point. Knives kill nearly 2,000 people per year, while rifles of all stripes, not just the AR-15, kill about 400. So if I wanted to play your cutesy game I would say "so you're okay with 5 times as many people dying, as long as they don't die at the same time". See how fun that is?

 

[Deleted member 2897]

You do know that the parking lot of a school is still school grounds, don't you? You were claiming like the random lady that he was taking a day off or was responding to something off campus. This new article completely refutes that.

It doesn't refute anything. It actually backs me up. Here's how. The Broward Sheriff said literally yesterday that the officer is under investigation - not criminally - but they're trying to find out what happened. These new statements don't definitely put him on campus at the time of the shooting. The only people who saw him, saw him in the parking lot. He could have very well been getting a coffee and then drove back when he heard about the shooting call on the radio. If he were actually on campus, wouldn't you expect to hear about him helping injured students? Why were others able to do that but not him? Again, I've said this multiple times, if he was in the school actually and couldn't find the kid but tried and so on, then we'll deal with that when we get there. But there is literally nothing from any source anywhere that implies that was the case. Even other officers in that article questioned what he could have been doing. Nothing is adding up to lead me to believe he was actually on campus and just incompetent. I think he's probably a pretty competent cop, but just wasn't there.

 

[WreckinGT]

As I said below, in a single attack, the odds are lower. But its not impossible. I think you are trying to split hairs to be cute though and missing the larger point. Knives kill nearly 2,000 people per year, while rifles of all stripes, not just the AR-15, kill about 400. So if I wanted to play your cutesy game I would say "so you're okay with 5 times as many people dying, as long as they don't die at the same time". See how fun that is?

My response would be that it is a good thing those knife attackers didn't use AR-15s or else there would be a lot more people dead right now.

 

[Deleted member 2897]

My response would be that it is a good thing those knife attackers didn't use AR-15s or else there would be a lot more people dead right now.

Maybe they couldn't because they weren't allowed to buy a gun in the first place.

 

[WreckinGT]

These new statements don't definitely put him on campus at the time of the shooting.

Seriously, do you even read the articles that you post?

Sheriff Israel reiterated that Deputy Peterson was elsewhere on campus, but would not say where.

You are calling the Sheriff a liar again.

 

[WreckinGT]

Maybe they couldn't because they weren't allowed to buy a gun in the first place.

Imagine how many lives we could save if we extended this philosophy.