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Tommy_Taylor_1972 said:
How the story ends:
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Where are they now: Years after basketball, John Kinman still recognized in Madison

Kinman was once one of Indiana's most prolific scoreres in high school basketball. He now runs a liquor store hear the Indiana-Kentucky border.
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He did finish his degree at Indiana and played city league for 10 years, then back to his home town to own a bar.
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Opened a liquor store across the bridge from a dry county…:D
Smart man!
 
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The sequential travels as shown in public media of Doryan Onwuchekwa (DO) paints a story to me that is interesting as a case study of the state of college basketball today. He was offered scholarships by several big schools before his senior year in high school, including TCU (coached by Jamie Dixon), Xavier (coached by Sean Miller, head coach to assistant Damon at Arizona), Colorado (coached by Tad Boyle), and Georgia Tech (coach by Damon Soudamire, recruited by assistant Terry Parker , Jr.). Tech made an offer to DO as the result of a relationship with assistant Terry Parker in Sep 2223. DO committed and signed a letter of intent to Colorado in Nov 2023. Coach Parker left Tech in Dec 2023 for personal reasons. DO withdrew the commitment from Colorado in Feb 2024. DO visited Tech several days before he signed a letter of intent with Tech around March 20, 2024. DO played his last game at Tech on Dec 15 2024 and did not return to the team due to announced personal reasons, although he is still enrolled in school spring semester. DO recently signed on with sports agent Greg Murphy of Miami-based Endurance Sports Management, LLC. https://www.endurancemgmt.com/#nextstepsection. Former Tech Coach Parker still resides in Atlanta as a basketball researcher. His LinkedIn posting says one of his jobs was NIL management and budget. Interesting. I draw no conclusions on why DO left the team, or the decision influencers. But, I am amazed that the life of the young 18-year-old DO is so complicated, after he grew up just wanting to play basketball and go to college. I do not know how today's athletes can focus just on basketball and studies and have a fun college life. The grown-ups sure have made the kid's lives much more complicated.
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Tommy_Taylor_1972 said:
The sequential travels as shown in public media of Doryan Onwuchekwa (DO) paints a story to me that is interesting as a case study of the state of college basketball today. He was offered scholarships by several big schools before his senior year in high school, including TCU (coached by Jamie Dixon), Xavier (coached by Sean Miller, head coach to assistant Damon at Arizona), Colorado (coached by Tad Boyle), and Georgia Tech (coach by Damon Soudamire, recruited by assistant Terry Parker , Jr.). Tech made an offer to DO as the result of a relationship with assistant Terry Parker in Sep 2223. DO committed and signed a letter of intent to Colorado in Nov 2023. Coach Parker left Tech in Dec 2023 for personal reasons. DO withdrew the commitment from Colorado in Feb 2024. DO visited Tech several days before he signed a letter of intent with Tech around March 20, 2024. DO played his last game at Tech on Dec 15 2024 and did not return to the team due to announced personal reasons, although he is still enrolled in school spring semester. DO recently signed on with sports agent Greg Murphy of Miami-based Endurance Sports Management, LLC. https://www.endurancemgmt.com/#nextstepsection. Former Tech Coach Parker still resides in Atlanta as a basketball researcher. His LinkedIn posting says one of his jobs was NIL management and budget. Interesting. I draw no conclusions on why DO left the team, or the decision influencers. But, I am amazed that the life of the young 18-year-old DO is so complicated, after he grew up just wanting to play basketball and go to college. I do not know how today's athletes can focus just on basketball and studies and have a fun college life. The grown-ups sure have made the kid's lives much more complicated.
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Thinking about my decision making ability when I was 18 and knowing that I would have found today’s climate daunting to say the least.
 

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Tommy_Taylor_1972 said:
The sequential travels as shown in public media of Doryan Onwuchekwa (DO) paints a story to me that is interesting as a case study of the state of college basketball today. He was offered scholarships by several big schools before his senior year in high school, including TCU (coached by Jamie Dixon), Xavier (coached by Sean Miller, head coach to assistant Damon at Arizona), Colorado (coached by Tad Boyle), and Georgia Tech (coach by Damon Soudamire, recruited by assistant Terry Parker , Jr.). Tech made an offer to DO as the result of a relationship with assistant Terry Parker in Sep 2223. DO committed and signed a letter of intent to Colorado in Nov 2023. Coach Parker left Tech in Dec 2023 for personal reasons. DO withdrew the commitment from Colorado in Feb 2024. DO visited Tech several days before he signed a letter of intent with Tech around March 20, 2024. DO played his last game at Tech on Dec 15 2024 and did not return to the team due to announced personal reasons, although he is still enrolled in school spring semester. DO recently signed on with sports agent Greg Murphy of Miami-based Endurance Sports Management, LLC. https://www.endurancemgmt.com/#nextstepsection. Former Tech Coach Parker still resides in Atlanta as a basketball researcher. His LinkedIn posting says one of his jobs was NIL management and budget. Interesting. I draw no conclusions on why DO left the team, or the decision influencers. But, I am amazed that the life of the young 18-year-old DO is so complicated, after he grew up just wanting to play basketball and go to college. I do not know how today's athletes can focus just on basketball and studies and have a fun college life. The grown-ups sure have made the kid's lives much more complicated.
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Not disagreeing, but adding some context. The blue chippers are exposed to this type of activity long before making any decisions. They have a lot more foundation than you or I so these decisions seem complex. It’s like you taking Calculus. You laid the foundation by taking Alg 1 and 2, Geometry and Trig. Our perception is they are going from Alg 1 directly to Calculus because we don’t have the progressive exposure of elite athletic recruiting they’ve experienced.
 
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Richard7125 said:
Not disagreeing, but adding some context. The blue chippers are exposed to this type of activity long before making any decisions. They have a lot more foundation than you or I so these decisions seem complex. It’s like you taking Calculus. You laid the foundation by taking Alg 1 and 2, Geometry and Trig. Our perception is they are going from Alg 1 directly to Calculus because we don’t have the progressive exposure of elite athletic recruiting they’ve experienced.
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Good analogy. But to continue the analogy, many of us found math increasingly more difficult the further up the food chain we got. In theory the foundation was being laid in algebra I and II but in actuality we were just getting closer and closer to the limits of our skill set. Even with early exposure to agents, money, media hype, and an ever increasing level of complications in the decision tree, I can see an 18 year old running out of runway before lift off. Sorry to mix the metaphors.
 

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Northeast Stinger said:
Good analogy. But to continue the analogy, many of us found math increasingly more difficult the further up the food chain we got. In theory the foundation was being laid in algebra I and II but in actuality we were just getting closer and closer to the limits of our skill set. Even with early exposure to agents, money, media hype, and an ever increasing level of complications in the decision tree, I can see an 18 year old running out of runway before lift off. Sorry to mix the metaphors.
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I completely agree.
 
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Northeast Stinger said:
Good analogy. But to continue the analogy, many of us found math increasingly more difficult the further up the food chain we got. In theory the foundation was being laid in algebra I and II but in actuality we were just getting closer and closer to the limits of our skill set. Even with early exposure to agents, money, media hype, and an ever increasing level of complications in the decision tree, I can see an 18 year old running out of runway before lift off. Sorry to mix the metaphors.
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I thought I was hot stuff through trig. Not so hot in Calc 1 and in over my head with Calc 2. I think that may be where DO found himself. "Hey, this ain't easy any more and the coaches are telling me I am not the hot **** everyone else says I am."
 
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Richard7125 said:
Not disagreeing, but adding some context. The blue chippers are exposed to this type of activity long before making any decisions. They have a lot more foundation than you or I so these decisions seem complex. It’s like you taking Calculus. You laid the foundation by taking Alg 1 and 2, Geometry and Trig. Our perception is they are going from Alg 1 directly to Calculus because we don’t have the progressive exposure of elite athletic recruiting they’ve experienced.
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I recall as a freshman in 1968, I went directly into calculus. I did have algebra in high school, which helped a little. What helped me pass it was the three hours in mandatory athletic study hall under the north stands 5 nights a week, under the strict supervision of Goose Slayton. Today, for a business management degree, the lowest number math course for a freshman is Math 1111, college algebra, a common course for most majors. That could be tough for some. if they are not properly prepared. I am not sure how well the sports academies and for-profit basketball schools are preparing their recruits for Georgia Tech. In particular, the 17th Street basketball school Overtime Elite has only online courses, according to their website. Will that be enough? We will see as our players progress year by year academically. Some may have to declare a lesser demanding major than business management as time goes on. I do believe lack of classroom success is the least of reasons players transfer. And that would not be publicized even if it was, because it would discourage future recruits. The case of DO's absence in particular is curious, unless he went on academic probation and had to sit out sports a semester. Our team captains my senior year had to sit out a quarter on academic probation his junior year.

I do wish we were spending time conversing about a winning streak or how we will win the next game.
 
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Northeast Stinger said:
BBQ stands for baked beans quota, right ?
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I was just about to post about baked beans. Tried some in Houston a few months ago. It's my go-to side when I get a bbq plate. But these were intriguing. Not sweet but had a bit of spicy, pepper tang to 'em. I liked it at first but found myself longing for sweet baked beans. The rest of the plate was just 'ok'. :confused:
 
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kg01 said:
I was just about to post about baked beans. Tried some in Houston a few months ago. It's my go-to side when I get a bbq plate. But these were intriguing. Not sweet but had a bit of spicy, pepper tang to 'em. I liked it at first but found myself longing for sweet baked beans. The rest of the plate was just 'ok'. :confused:
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Sweet with just a little bit of pork mixed in. Now we’re off to the races.
 
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