Doryan

[Connell62]

Yeah, I'm blessed that my parents are great. But I'm aware enough to recognize that's not always the case. My heart bleeds for kids that have to be adults in the home.

Not saying this is certainly the case for DO. Just acknowledging the need to not assume we know everything about situations.

I hate when people make assumptions like that. Everybody's life is different.

Unfortunately, I'd say that it is probably more common that parental guidance is lacking than having a great family there to guide you.

 

[orientalnc]

Unfortunately, I'd say that it is probably more common that parental guidance is lacking than having a great family there to guide you.

I don't know if I agree with this. I believe most parents want, and try to help, their kids step into adulthood gracefully. I know some have good intentions and fail while trying. I agree that too many kids are out there on their own at a very young age. My next door neighbor has a daughter who pitches at a D1 school. They are off to see her play frequently. Dad was her back yard catcher until he couldn't handle her fast ball any longer.

 

[Connell62]

I don't know if I agree with this. I believe most parents want, and try to help, their kids step into adulthood gracefully. I know some have good intentions and fail while trying. I agree that too many kids are out there on their own at a very young age. My next door neighbor has a daughter who pitches at a D1 school. They are off to see her play frequently. Dad was her back yard catcher until he couldn't handle her fast ball any longer.

Love ya @orientalnc, but I don't think that your next door neighbor's daughter (or even kids GT recruits) are the examples I am referring too.

Look up and down the top 100, and I think that you will find many kids that come from rough situations, tough home lives.

Maybe I didn't word it the best, but I think that it is more common than many realize.

 

[orientalnc]

Love ya @orientalnc, but I don't think that your next door neighbor's daughter (or even kids GT recruits) are the examples I am referring too.

Look up and down the top 100, and I think that you will find many kids that come from rough situations, tough home lives.

Maybe I didn't word it the best, but I think that it is more common than many realize.

I wish I were confident that you're wrong. The evidence in football and men's basketball doesn't really support my POV.

 

[Techwood Relict]

If the story I have heard is true, it is a pretty damning assessment of DO.

I've said this before, but teenage boys are not renowned for their decision making capability. Some teenage boys are in college. Big bodies, still maturing minds.....

 

[kg01]

I've said this before, but teenage boys are not renowned for their decision making capability. Some teenage boys are in college. Big bodies, still maturing minds.....

Judging from this message board, the lack of maturity definitely doesn't stop in the teens.

What? Why're you looking at me like that?

 

[Tommy_Taylor_1972]

My daughter is trying to go to grad school at Johns Hopkins. Is that related?

You made me laugh when I was thinking about Georgia Tech basketball.

How do you know that his mom or dad are still in the picture or that they're worth a damn?

We might know all there is to know about a kid from a basketball perspective, but we often know very little about their home life or upbringing.

It could be that his mom or dad make worse decisions than him. It is not uncommon.

Doryan came from a solid high school background, winning a state championship with a Texas high school 4 A coach of the year. . DO was smiling back then. Then going through the recruiting process and signing and signing LOI process, then playing in ACC for 182 minutes in 10 games. Along with the elimination of letters of intent in the in the 2024-25 season, a player can play in 10 games and still be redshirted.. Currently a football player can play in 4 games.

Doryan had a chance to see how the college system works and seems a smart athlete with a good high school coach and championship experience, having good parents and environment growing up in DeSota TX, being highly sought after, experiencing the rigors of Georgia Tech academics and ACC basketball, and making a decision to go another path. Not sure he had a talent agency agent out of high school, but he has one now and is in the real world with real money changing hands. All this within the last year, and the demeanor in his pictures changed from smiles to more serious.. I cannot imagine doing anything from age 17 to 18 in my freshman year at Tech but playing basketball, going to class, and bird-dogging girls riding down Techwood Avenue and dating Scotties..

 

[ChristoGT]

Those pics look about how I went through my freshman year at Tech. Came in smiling and confident, finished defeated and wondering if I had what it takes - and that was just school. Glad my dad (a UGA professor) kicked me in the rear and said go back and do better. Well it worked.

Can't imagine playing a scholarship sport and attending school at the same time. Lots of pressure from all sides to do better and still keep some semblance of grades up.

 

[Techwood Relict]

Judging from this message board, the lack of maturity definitely doesn't stop in the teens.

We can't all be a Peacone......

 

[Richland County]

How do you know that his mom or dad are still in the picture or that they're worth a damn?

We might know all there is to know about a kid from a basketball perspective, but we often know very little about their home life or upbringing.

It could be that his mom or dad make worse decisions than him. It is not uncommon.

I don’t, but how do you know? Also how do you know greed isn't the driving factor? Before NIL money wasn't the driving force. Example BYU buys a top recruit. The young man didn't chose BYU because he is Mormon.

 

[dtm1997]

Judging from this message board, the lack of maturity definitely doesn't stop in the teens.

What? Why're you looking at me like that?

Because you like ****ty ice cream.

 

[Connell62]

I don’t, but how do you know? Also how do you know greed isn't the driving factor? Before NIL money wasn't the driving force. Example BYU buys a top recruit. The young man didn't chose BYU because he is Mormon.

LOL…How do I know that greed isn’t the source of what led to him leaving? I know because I’ve heard from multiple people what occurred.

Greed? Dude, you’re even more misinformed than you come across. Do you think Doryan got some big NIL package?

There’s maybe 2-3 guys max that are getting paid any type of real money. DO wasn’t one of them.

 

[Richland County]

LOL…How do I know that greed isn’t the source of what led to him leaving? I know because I’ve heard from multiple people what occurred.

Greed? Dude, you’re even more misinformed than you come across. Do you think Doryan got some big NIL package?

There’s maybe 2-3 guys max that are getting paid any type of real money. DO wasn’t one of them.

I believe you are mistaken on what I'm talking about. I'm talking the state of college athletics and how NIL has created greed among the hs athletes. Settle down with the tough guy act. Reading comprehension is fundamental you might want to try understanding before going on someone. The reason the big fr isn't playing is because he is soft and can't take tough coaching. Is that better for you?

 

[Connell62]

I believe you are mistaken on what I'm talking about. I'm talking the state of college athletics and how NIL has created greed among the hs athletes. Settle down with the tough guy act. Reading comprehension is fundamental you might want to try understanding before going on someone. The reason the big fr isn't playing is because he is soft and can't take tough coaching. Is that better for you?

Yes, your point was so clear and concise. Please forgive me for misunderstanding…And you’re calling the tough guy. Please.

You’re as misinformed as they come. Before NIL, it was bags of cash. The top guys have always been influenced by money and/or other perks.

 

[kg01]

Yes, your point was so clear and concise. Please forgive me for misunderstanding…And you’re calling the tough guy. Please.

You’re as misinformed as they come. Before NIL, it was bags of cash. The top guys have always been influenced by money and/or other perks.

Whaaaat?

Players got paid before NIL?

 

[Northeast Stinger]

Yeah, I'm blessed that my parents are great. But I'm aware enough to recognize that's not always the case. My heart bleeds for kids that have to be adults in the home.

Not saying this is certainly the case for DO. Just acknowledging the need to not assume we know everything about situations.

I hate when people make assumptions like that. Everybody's life is different.

I love it when kg01, ice cream tyrant that he is, starts dishing the empathy.

 

[kg01]

I love it when kg01, ice cream tyrant that he is, starts dishing the empathy.

Hey, somebody's gotta have enough heart to keep you ruffians in line.

 

[Tommy_Taylor_1972]

Exactly...from what I have heard, this has nothing to do with agents or the current landscape of high-level recruiting.

This is a case of extreme immaturity and poor decision making by a kid that essentially quit on his team because he didn't like getting yelled at in practice.

If the story I have heard is true, it is a pretty damning assessment of DO.

Differences between a coach and player can result in players leaving the school mid-season. Georgia Tech benefited from such a situation after the Christmas break in the 1997-98 season when Indiana starting center 7 ft Jason Collier quit the Hosier team. citing difficulties getting along with Coach Knight. Who could imagine that? . Jason transferred to Tech, likely because his father Jeff played Tech basketball from 1972-76. Jason graduated, was drafted 15th overall, and played three seasons with Houston and was beginning his third season with the Hawks when he unexpectedly died of a heart attack in Oct 2005.