Defense

[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

Agree ... a good player does not always make a good coach, but I will always be a CTR fan as a person !!

I have no problem with him on a personal level either, and I KNOW he LOVES Tech. Sadly that didn't make him a very good DC.

 

[GTJake]

Did you read my first comment? Anyways, that’s not my point. I’m saying, the guys were not braking down and they were over pursuing which does cause tackling issues.

No I didn't ... my point is these guys should have learned how to wrap-up and tackle in HS.

 

[Texwood]

From what I've seen, we are primarily running a 1-gap 4-3 system that stunts a whole bunch under Woody. The fact that one of those 4 is called a LB is kind of irrelevant in terms of scheme. There was definitely confusion today wrt to gap integrity. That needs to be cleaned up.

 

[Whiskey_Clear]

Getting mad handled can be a result of scheme, why did we not get man handled today, yet most of last year we did?

Who man handled us last year? Clemson and the mutts. We weren’t the only teams they man handled btw. They didn’t man handle us with scheme...it was talent pure and simple.

Can schemes lead to blowouts? Absolutely. But being man handled is another animal.

 

[tech_wreck47]

Change happens all the time in sports. Teams adapt and adjust all the time. To say that it takes time to learn a new system is not true. Now if you had stated its going to take time to get the right personnel, that could be true to a point. I would then agree with you. We don't have the personnel to do what we are asking them to do. Most likely won't ever have them.

We will just agree to disagree then. No problem.

 

[Whiskey_Clear]

From what I've seen, we are primarily running a 1-gap 4-3 system that stunts a whole bunch under Woody. The fact that one of those 4 is called a LB is kind of irrelevant in terms of scheme. There was definitely confusion today wrt to gap integrity. That needs to be cleaned up.

I don’t see many 4-3s spread their DTs out like we are this year.

 

[tech_wreck47]

Who man handled us last year? Clemson and the mutts. We weren’t the only teams they man handled btw. They didn’t man handle us with scheme...it was talent pure and simple.

Can schemes lead to blowouts? Absolutely. But being man handled is another animal.

UT 2nd half, Duke, Virginia......

 

[GTThor]

Come now. It obviously takes some time to learn a new scheme to the point of being proficient with it. New assignments, new fits, new language, new signals. Getting proficient ain’t reasonably gonna happen week one.

Next year I expect the guys to be more proficient with all of the above. Heck I expect continued improvement all year.

Is it easier to blame these things instead of talent / ability? Certainly. But there is a bit of a learning curve here.

The reason he was hired was for the simplicity of the scheme. He has had a spring practice, summer, and a pre season period to teach the scheme. If they can't learn it in 5-6 months, a GT man isn't going to ever learn it. These guys train year round.

Last time I will say it... NW is in over his head. He has always had better athletes than the other team. He will never have better athletes here. He has to be the better coach. Scheme, communication, work ethic, and game plan.

 

[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

The reason he was hired was for the simplicity of the scheme. He has had a spring practice, summer, and a pre season period to teach the scheme. If they can't learn it in 5-6 months, a GT man isn't going to ever learn it. These guys train year round.

Last time I will say it... NW is in over his head. He has always had better athletes than the other team. He will never have better athletes here. He has to be the better coach. Scheme, communication, work ethic, and game plan.

Have you ever learned, or re-learned, something almost in totality in a 6 month period? I sure haven't.

 

[Whiskey_Clear]

UT 2nd half, Duke, Virginia......

I think you are conflating poor play with being physically man handled. Apples and oranges.

When the Miami receiveee caught that 4th down throw did he man handle anyone? Did our front 7 get pancaked that play. I don’t think so....but yes they converted the play to get the W.

 

[Whiskey_Clear]

We DID apply pressure like we haven't seen in years, but even with 3 guys right on top of the QB on one play, he still managed to get away, as he did on many other plays.

I wasn’t impressed with either the pressure or containment. Big fails on both imo.

 

[GTThor]

Have you ever learned, or re-learned, something almost in totality in a 6 month period? I sure haven't.

Yes
I have done it on several occasions. My job requires me to take over programs and fix them. Some take longer than others.

 

[tech_wreck47]

I think you are conflating poor play with being physically man handled. Apples and oranges.

When the Miami receiveee caught that 4th down throw did he man handle anyone? Did our front 7 get pancaked that play. I don’t think so....but yes they converted the play to get the W.

Our DL was being blown off the ball and LB’s getting blocked at the second level. That’s what I’m talking about.

 

[GTThor]

Our DL was being blown off the ball and LB’s getting blocked at the second level. That’s what I’m talking about.

Agree

 

[Texwood]

I don’t see many 4-3s spread their DTs out like we are this year.

It's definitely different from a 4-3 with DT's in the 1 and 3 techniques. Our nose is usually at the 1, with both DE's in a 5. The LB on the LOS is in a 7 or 9. It's still clearly a 1-gap 4-3 scheme that stunts a whole bunch. Today there were several occasions where it was clear that everyone wasn't on the same page on the stunt calls. To be honest, this shouldn't be terribly surprising. I just hope the staff can get it cleaned up...

 

[Whiskey_Clear]

Our DL was being blown off the ball and LB’s getting blocked at the second level. That’s what I’m talking about.

Look, I have nevee said our front 7 last year was very good. I’m still not. But they got man handled less last year, particularly at the los, than in prior years.

The big fan gripes I remember from last year, as always were....in no particular order...
-playing with too much cushion
-missing tackles
-taking bad angles
-playing out of position
-not blitzing enough
-not disguising blitzes

Bottom line is our front 7 hasn’t been and still isn’t great. I think it’s getting better.

edit: I think we have more of a difference in semantics than anything. Imo...getting man handled is when I put my hands on you and move you where I want you with little to no resistance.

I think our wheels on D is our biggest weakness...not quite as much size and strength

 

[gtg845w]

Brant Mitchell is the most overrated player on the defense and supposedly the leader. How bjs doesn't start is not a good look for him

 

[Whiskey_Clear]

Brant Mitchell is the most overrated player on the defense and supposedly the leader. How bjs doesn't start is not a good look for him

BM has taken more fan criticism the last two years than every other player on D put together.

 

[stech81]

I would like to coach our defense I would play the 8-5-8 we could stop the run or passing unless they go to the,Tight end, then will would need to be in the 7-7-7

 

[tech_wreck47]

I wonder if Brant is a really good practice player, but for some reason it doesn’t translate to the game? You hear about guys who aren’t that great in practice but in games are better. At this point I’d put the higher upside guys in, unless others at the time are just WAY better. You might have more bigger plays against you, but you might also create more bigger plays.