Dedrick Mills Committed to Nebraska

[AE 87]

In the grand scheme of things, he had the Mother of all wake up calls by being dismissed from the Institute. Every GT fan, painful as it might be, should be extremely happy that Dedrick got it together and is still able to go to college, play football, and hopefully earn a degree.

I wish him all the success possible as he won that Tax Slayer Bowl single handily for us back in 2016. He was fun to watch in Ireland and Jacksonville. Good luck!

That and Garden City isn't far from Colorado.

 

[33jacket]

On the other hand, I am of the opinion that we as a society don't hold people accountable any more but keep lowering expectations (or "rules") to the lowest common denominator. Tail wagging the dog if you will. I don't disagree with your other points..we should keep up with things like salaries, facilities, etc. But loosening rules to accommodate illegal drug use is not something where we should aspire to 'keep up with the Jones's". Of course, i realize i am probably in the minority on this issue. Who cares if the kid breaks the law?...if he can help us win games, then by gawd let's keep him in school.

No. Its about getting kids help and not kicking out due to addiction. Kids who have these problems cant stop cold turkey and we boot em. Even paul said, to which i agree, its not just about breaking the rules. That is obvious. But as a program we should do more to help them. If that means they slip up a time or two more then thats part if the evaluation. We kicked out a good kid who had an issue and never helped him. Thats the part that changed. Its not about loosening rules. Its about removing hard and fast and getting a kid support to help them etc.

 

[ibeattetris]

On the other hand, I am of the opinion that we as a society don't hold people accountable any more but keep lowering expectations (or "rules") to the lowest common denominator. Tail wagging the dog if you will. I don't disagree with your other points..we should keep up with things like salaries, facilities, etc. But loosening rules to accommodate illegal drug use is not something where we should aspire to 'keep up with the Jones's". Of course, i realize i am probably in the minority on this issue. Who cares if the kid breaks the law?...if he can help us win games, then by gawd let's keep him in school.

Interesting take. I am usually in agreement that once a bar is set, it shouldn’t be lowered. In this case, I believe the bar was inappropriately set. It appears that the national perception of this issue coming to also acknowledge that the bar is not set appropriately.
“if he can help us win games, then by gawd let's keep him in school.”
I think his is very unfair. We do not kick out our students over issues like this (maybe we have a strike system but I know enough people that it never seemed an issue), so I do not see how this is about winning football games. Kicking someone out of college could cause irreparable damage to the person’s life, and to me, that is counter to the goal of a university.

 

[Ibeeballin]

No. Its about getting kids help and not kicking out due to addiction. Kids who have these problems cant stop cold turkey and we boot em. Even paul said, to which i agree, its not just about breaking the rules. That is obvious. But as a program we should do more to help them. If that means they slip up a time or two more then thats part if the evaluation. We kicked out a good kid who had an issue and never helped him. Thats the part that changed. Its not about loosening rules. Its about removing hard and fast and getting a kid support to help them etc.

Especially when the GTAA tout things like the Total Person Program. Dedrick should’ve been poster child for that as person well-being is key principle in that program

 

[684Bee]

Especially when the GTAA tout things like the Total Person Program. Dedrick should’ve been poster child for that as person well-being is key principle in that program

No. Its about getting kids help and not kicking out due to addiction. Kids who have these problems cant stop cold turkey and we boot em. Even paul said, to which i agree, its not just about breaking the rules. That is obvious. But as a program we should do more to help them. If that means they slip up a time or two more then thats part if the evaluation. We kicked out a good kid who had an issue and never helped him. Thats the part that changed. Its not about loosening rules. Its about removing hard and fast and getting a kid support to help them etc.

When you say that GT “never helped him”, do you know this for certain?

From the outside looking in, I seem to remember that Mills was given multiple chances. While I would’ve loved to have him on the team, the fact that he isn’t is more on Mills than it is GT.

 

[southernhive]

Good for Dedrick! Being kicked out of GT may have neen the reality check he needed to get him pointed in the right direction. Inorder to get help, you first have to realize you need help.

 

[takethepoints]

Oh, thank you, Ken, so much.

Not that we need to be reminded about what we missed by having Mills fired. But … well, he is a journalist; he has reported the news. It isn't his fault if it hurts.

 

[1BearJACKET]

No need to hear his name again unless he's drafted by the Falcons or we meet the 'Huskers in a bowl next season.

 

[Lavoisier]

When you say that GT “never helped him”, do you know this for certain?

From the outside looking in, I seem to remember that Mills was given multiple chances. While I would’ve loved to have him on the team, the fact that he isn’t is more on Mills than it is GT.

Mandatory counciling is part of the requirement when you failed your first two drug tests under the old policy. You can lead a horse to water and all that. Third time you're kicked off the team, but not the school. You are still able to finish your degree as a regular student. People who act like GT was somehow the bad guy in this scenario are ridiculous.

That being said, I'm glad that we have a new policy in place. I said in the last thread that I'm not an expert on addiction and I'm glad we consulted people who were when making it. Even if it sounds like we're getting soft or lowering the bar or whatever, who the hell am I to tell some PhD or MD who's an expert in the field that they're wrong?

 

[684Bee]

Mandatory counciling is part of the requirement when you failed your first two drug tests under the old policy. You can lead a horse to water and all that. Third time you're kicked off the team, but not the school. You are still able to finish your degree as a regular student. People who act like GT was somehow the bad guy in this scenario are ridiculous.

That being said, I'm glad that we have a new policy in place. I said in the last thread that I'm not an expert on addiction and I'm glad we consulted people who were when making it. Even if it sounds like we're getting soft or lowering the bar or whatever, who the hell am I to tell some PhD or MD who's an expert in the field that they're wrong?

Oh, there are plenty of academics that are wrong. They sometimes have their heads too much in the lab/theory and not enough real world.

 

[Lavoisier]

I don't think I said otherwise? I am smart enough to know that I haven't studied addiction and treatment so I am not the person to say anything and I will take them at face value.

 

[tech_wreck47]

 

[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

I sure didn't remember him being that short.....unless all the other players on that team are really tall.

 

[TheSilasSonRising]

Any other school but tech and he is still here. He sparked stansbury to change the rules from hard and fast to a more flexible evaluation. It stinks we lost him because like with everything else in athletics we are stuck a decade behind the times.

Uniforms
Support staff
Salaries
Facilities
Player rules
On and on.

If I understand your "Any others school but tech" statement, I think he would have been gone from -

Army, navy, afa, northwestern, puke, maybe uva, maybe stanford, n.d., maybe vandy, rice, even Saban told alvin kamara to get the hell out at bama, and probably other places as well.

 

[Yoda]

Looks like he's slimmed up a good bit.

 

[takethepoints]

That's him alright. That's good old run-through-the-trash, nose-for-the-goalline, takes-two-to-bring-him-down, look-out-DBs Dedrick. The Huskers's RB problems are ovah.

It hurt to watch since, good as he looks in that film, he would be even more effective in our O. Ah, well. With any luck Benson will be back with the best depth at BB we've ever had next year.

 

[Milwaukee]

My goodness he looks tiny, and quicker. Completely different back.

 

[g0lftime]

No. Its about getting kids help and not kicking out due to addiction. Kids who have these problems cant stop cold turkey and we boot em. Even paul said, to which i agree, its not just about breaking the rules. That is obvious. But as a program we should do more to help them. If that means they slip up a time or two more then thats part if the evaluation. We kicked out a good kid who had an issue and never helped him. Thats the part that changed. Its not about loosening rules. Its about removing hard and fast and getting a kid support to help them etc.

I have no problem with this but kid needs to enter a rehab program and be willing to have regular monitoring. Must take time away from FB other than practice to focus on schoolwork and health.

 

[g0lftime]

If I understand your "Any others school but tech" statement, I think he would have been gone from -

Army, navy, afa, northwestern, puke, maybe uva, maybe stanford, n.d., maybe vandy, rice, even Saban told alvin kamara to get the hell out at bama, and probably other places as well.

A bad apple can infect others. Misery loves company and dope smokers recruit others into that lifestyle.

 

[33jacket]

I have no problem with this but kid needs to enter a rehab program and be willing to have regular monitoring. Must take time away from FB other than practice to focus on schoolwork and health.

Having a family member that has an addiction issue i can tell you that rehab you read about in the media where people go to centers for 2 months is a vanity play for them and doesnt work. Thats not the solution. Having scheduled sessions in rehab classes on a routine basis is far more effective and does not require any more time on the SA behalf than an extra hour here and there. And there is no tests or homework.

Regular monitoring is part of the class, as is testing which we do at the AA anyway. His issue is not like some, extreme addiction on highly addictive drugs like heroin which is kinda more what you were alluding too. In those cases sure. I would agree and if that was the case he couldn’t play anyway