Conference Realignment

[Techwood Relict]

Kentucky, well...

In mine, tmhunter52's, and I'm sure, other's defense, I still feel an ACC vibe, even though I'm in the rolling hills.....

 

[bobongo]

Do we know how much of an increase we would get from ESPN for adding Notre Dame to the conference? Does that get us to $50m per member?

I doubt it. The current deal is ~ $40 million per school. ND would have to add ~ $150 million or more to the pot in order to increase the payout to $50 million per school.
But they're the only school available that could improve the ACC's situation, if everybody gets an even share.

 

[stech81]

WOW! Now that's a quick response. What do you think is the rationale for FSU and Clemson? Seems like they would have the most to gain. Afraid of the competition?

FSU is a crybaby

 

[Root4GT]

Pennsylvania is pretty darn close (even though Pittsburgh is on the rust belt side). Kentucky, well...

...every ACC school is in the Eastern time zone.

I believe only Louisville is West of GT in the ACC.

 

[Papa Foxtrot]

Posted for the sheer entertainment value.

 

[1979jacket]

Posted for the sheer entertainment value.

Now that there is funny - I don't care who you are!!!!!!

 

[TooTall]

Posted for the sheer entertainment value.

Clempson pulling a Clemzon.

 

[GTNavyNuke]

Posted for the sheer entertainment value.

The replies are great entertainment. Thank you.

 

[LT 1967]

Posted for the sheer entertainment value.

Makes me remember in 1964 when we all said GT would be the Notre Dame of the South! My excuse is I was a Naive Sophomore.

 

[SimpleGT]

Clempson math - 70 mil - ((120 mil + 500 mil )/12 years), so 18 mil is better than 40 mil

 

[Techwood Relict]

Clempson math - 70 mil - ((120 mil + 500 mil )/12 years), so 18 mil is better than 40 mil

Probably should take off the shoes if they are going to count to 18......

 

[iceeater1969]

Makes me remember in 1964 when we all said GT would be the Notre Dame of the South! My excuse is I was a Naive Sophomore.

Parents ,both U Ala grads , were aghast when i chose Gt in 65 I was on campus for a year before i realized we were not in SEC.

 

[orientalnc]

My UNC neighbor told me yesterday that the ACC presidents and ADs are meeting this weekend (maybe today) and will take a real vote (not a straw poll) about Stanford and Cal. He does not know if SMU is included, but thinks not. His opinion is that the meeting and vote are not required unless UNC or NC State have decided to vote with the majority.

Another factoid he shared: NC law requires UNC and NC State to be in the same conference. I did not know that. Unless there is wiggle room, that pretty much eliminates the B1G for UNC. And, maybe the SEC as well.

Is momentum picking up for Stanford, Cal to join ACC?

Where do things stand with the ACC in terms of adding Stanford or Cal? There’s potentially some new developments.

tarheelswire.usatoday.com

 

[stech81]

I don't believe the ACC will do anything till it's too late. And then it's something dumb.

 

[yeti92]

My UNC neighbor told me yesterday that the ACC presidents and ADs are meeting this weekend (maybe today) and will take a real vote (not a straw poll) about Stanford and Cal. He does not know if SMU is included, but thinks not. His opinion is that the meeting and vote are not required unless UNC or NC State have decided to vote with the majority.

Another factoid he shared: NC law requires UNC and NC State to be in the same conference. I did not know that. Unless there is wiggle room, that pretty much eliminates the B1G for UNC. And, maybe the SEC as well.

Is momentum picking up for Stanford, Cal to join ACC?

Where do things stand with the ACC in terms of adding Stanford or Cal? There’s potentially some new developments.

tarheelswire.usatoday.com

Stanford and SMU are both offering to give up what would be their share back to the conference to be let in, Cal is not. From what I understand, Cal's athletic department is saddled with hundreds of millions in debt, so they can't afford to take a partial share. If that is the case, I would take SMU and Stanford at this point, and leave Cal. I don't see any benefit to the conference with them.

 

[orientalnc]

Stanford and SMU are both offering to give up what would be their share back to the conference to be let in, Cal is not. From what I understand, Cal's athletic department is saddled with hundreds of millions in debt, so they can't afford to take a partial share. If that is the case, I would take SMU and Stanford at this point, and leave Cal. I don't see any benefit to the conference with them.

The problem for Cal is the PAC-4 is dead after this season unless they can add 4 schools. That seems to be a stretch right now due to the lack of a TV deal and the exit fees MWC and AAC teams would have to pay to join the PAC-n. Joining the MWC is not much better in the short term than joining the ACC for zero. Cal has to be thinking out beyond the the next 4-5 years. But, debt can make for strange decisions.

 

[Oakland]

I have a hypothetical question using Cal as an example. Say Cal is left without a conference and TV money. They play a home game against a B1G team. Would Cal receive money from the B1G television network?

 

[orientalnc]

I have a hypothetical question using Cal as an example. Say Cal is left without a conference and TV money. They play a home game against a B1G team. Would Cal receive money from the B1G television network?

The B1G TV contract pays for TV rights to conference games and home games against non-conference opponents. It does not cover non-conference games played at opposing teams stadiums. So, if Cal hosted tOSU they would not get any money from the B1G TV contract. Furthermore, unless they had a side deal in the contract, they would get nothing from the B1G TV contract even if the game was played at tOSU.

 

[yeti92]

I have a hypothetical question using Cal as an example. Say Cal is left without a conference and TV money. They play a home game against a B1G team. Would Cal receive money from the B1G television network?

I believe the game would not be televised in that situation, unless Cal worked out a deal with a network to cover the game.

 

[Flajacket]

The B1G TV contract pays for TV rights to conference games and home games against non-conference opponents. It does not cover non-conference games played at opposing teams stadiums. So, if Cal hosted tOSU they would not get any money from the B1G TV contract. Furthermore, unless they had a side deal in the contract, they would get nothing from the B1G TV contract even if the game was played at tOSU.

So if Mich were to invite App State to return for a do over, the only incentive for ASU is the check Mich writes.