Conference Realignment

[RonJohn]

It is very difficult to get accurate projectsion. The average payout for the ACC last year is listed as $44.8 million. However, GT is listed as $55.36 million from "Conference/NCAA Distributions, Media Rights, and Post-Season Football" in the Knight database. How the numbers are derived for different disclosures and different projections are hard to determine.

However, if we take the $44.8 million and use the 4.5% increase that was listed from the ESPN contract in the FSU lawsuit, then in 2030, ACC teams will be receiving about $55 million per school in 2030. I have seen projections for the Big10 all the way up to $120 million per year in 2030.

Not accurate, I understand. $50 million is the number that FSU claimed while filing the lawsuit last year. They claimed it in such a way as to make people believe it would be in 2024-25, not in six years. The Big10 and SEC are currently about $7 to $15 million on average higher than the ACC. They are both about to get a bump from their new media contracts. There is a website nvgt.com that did projections in 2022, but there data from 2022-2024 doesn't match what actually happened. I don't know if their projections were wrong, or if it isn't all inclusive. I lean towards being wrong. They over-projected the revenue of the Big10 and SEC for the last three years, and under-projected the revenue of the ACC. It is hard to know exactly what will happen in the future.

 

[g0lftime]

Not yet. not looking numbers up at the moment, but I think the SEC was something like $8-10 million more last fiscal year. However, the projections show it rising. The SEC media payouts are getting a large bump in this fiscal year. Assuming the ACC increases at the same percentage rate that is in the contract, the difference by 2030 will be around $50-60 million per team between the ACC and the P2. FSU didn't start making noise about the GOR or the ACC media money until the details of the new SEC media contract were made public. FSU fans seem to have a little brother complex related to UF.

UF is the flag ship school of Florida. FSU is a former teachers college that went coed. Was very attractive to college age men with all those women back in the sixties. Especially when I entered GT and we had roughly 60 coeds on campus.

 

[stinger78]

UF is the flag ship school of Florida. FSU is a former teachers college that went coed. Was very attractive to college age men with all those women back in the sixties. Especially when I entered GT and we had roughly 60 coeds on campus.

You forgot the Bauder and Massey coeds, and those from Agnes Scott.

 

[Vespidae]

UF is the flag ship school of Florida. FSU is a former teachers college that went coed. Was very attractive to college age men with all those women back in the sixties. Especially when I entered GT and we had roughly 60 coeds on campus.

My brother went to FSU in the 60’s. It was 6:1 girls to guys. He had a date to every sports event and never took the same girl twice. He said it was close to Nirvana as you could get.

 

[iceeater1969]

My brother went to FSU in the 60’s. It was 6:1 girls to guys. He had a date to every sports event and never took the same girl twice. He said it was close to Nirvana as you could get.

In 65 ish gt had about 50 ""girls""" on campus.

Dates cost money SO U could stand by dorm at techwood dr/ north avenue and girls woild drive by and pick u up to party at their place.. Vast supply of Stewardess in training, model school, nurse school, nurse at grady, admins in business, govt. They all liked tech guys. Look out for hs girls!

If we all keep posting we can get to 1000.

 

[Vespidae]

Vast supply of Stewardess in training, model school, nurse school, nurse at grady, admins in business, govt.

One of my Tech professors had attended GT and described how to date a nurse at Crawford Long who worked the 11-7 shift. You could enjoy her company, drop her off, then scoot over to Georgia Baptist and get a second date with one who was just coming off the 3-11 shift. He smiled as he recalled his brilliant hand at scheduling.

 

[roadkill]

The "Ratio" is 56/44 M/F for this semester's freshman class. My how times have changed.

 

[stinger78]

The "Ratio" is 56/44 M/F for this semester's freshman class. My how times have changed.

I feel cheated.

 

[roadkill]

I feel cheated.

The Ratio

Obligatory Link: The Ratio

 

[roadkill]

I'm not saying it is a good deal. We don't really even know the specifics of the deal. This article was just a poorly written rant though. It makes no attempt to rationalize why the ACC might be considering the deal, which they apparently are.

For the deal itself, im still trying to figure out why the ACC is considering it. Outside of the obvious possibility that they don't feel as strongly about their case or don't want to be tied up in legal proceedings for years, it seems ESPN is more involved than is reported. There are rumors that they are willing to fit the bill (or some of the bill) on the extra "tv viewership" money that will be going to some schools. The original media deal signed was also contingent on the grant of rights. Is ESPN really ok with the ACC just shortening that if they feel like it? Im not sure the ACC can even do that without ESPNs blessing. Or is ESPN possibly involved in that discussion? Its hard to know just how much weight ESPN is throwing around here to get what they want.

We don't know that the ACC is considering it in the sense of viewing it as a serious framework to work with. All we know is that. per sources, it's "being discussed". David McKenzie made an insightful comment about the context of the "discussion":

"One thing that seems lost on all the rumors & reporting about the FSU-Clem proposal is this: A lawyer has a duty to relay a settlement proposal to her client no matter how ridiculous it is. It's not surprising that this has happened, & that the ACC presidents will discuss it."

 

[forensicbuzz]

Add in the legal settlement that says colleges will/ can pay players and it just got way worse.
Before the giant sec verses others tv advertiser monry sent to coaches, buildings, ice cream machines. That only does so much.

Now that delta can go to helping thier alrwady strong sec NIL.

Maybe this is why fsu is wanting more money.


Some states and schooks could combine get very creative and generous to the player.

Let's be honest, uga's is going to pay the bail bondsman and the legal fees.

 

[forensicbuzz]

The "Ratio" is 56/44 M/F for this semester's freshman class. My how times have changed.

Think about what that means regarding Title 9. Our next varsity sport will be a women's team. Hopefully women's soccer.

 

[augustabuzz]

I must have missed it, but I haven't seen anything supporting a $50-$60m difference between the ACC and SEC in 2030.

The last payments were SEC 50 mm and ACC 45mm.

 

[yoshiki2]

This ^^^^

It is a bit of an inside joke. I realize that geographically Texas is in the south. However, culturally it is very different from the southern states in the southeast. At least that was my experience while living in Fort Worth for a year and a half as a native of GA with roots throughout AL, TN, NC, and SC.

I’ve dated plenty of Latinas from Texas—funny how they call it 'the South.' Meanwhile, I’ve only ever been there when passing through.

 

[yoshiki2]

Think about what that means regarding Title 9. Our next varsity sport will be a women's team. Hopefully women's soccer.

ISYE class of 2020, believe it or not, there were more girls than guys in my classes. I turned into a matchmaker, bringing my buddies from EE, ME, and CompE into the mix. Doing the Lord’s work!

 

[yoshiki2]

In 65 ish gt had about 50 ""girls""" on campus.

Dates cost money SO U could stand by dorm at techwood dr/ north avenue and girls woild drive by and pick u up to party at their place.. Vast supply of Stewardess in training, model school, nurse school, nurse at grady, admins in business, govt. They all liked tech guys. Look out for hs girls!

If we all keep posting we can get to 1000.

It's 2024, here’s how I handle it now: When the bill comes, I casually ask how much of a feminist they are. If they say they’re all in, I hand them the bill. If not, I tell them to let me embrace my inner 'machista' and cover it. Keeps the vibe smooth, and they stay in their feminine energy while I take care of things

 

[forensicbuzz]

Nothing wrong with treating someone to dinner.

 

[travgt01]

Looks like just another step in that direction taking place next week.

B#-$ec

 

[billga99]

Wrap up 8 of the 14 bids with 3 I guess bids guaranteed to ACC, Big 12 and Top Group of 5. My suspicion is the 3 guaranteed bids will hinge on a level of ranking. So the remaining 3 at large bids probably going to Big Ten and SEC. Why bother to have a playoff if only 2 conferences really get invited.

I think the other 8 conferences should refuse to play the SEC and Big 10 in any sport. While it clearly will not have much impact on money and not really on football or basketball, it would make life more difficult in all of the other sports. It would also need to get the NCAA to not invite SEC or Big 10 to any national championship in any sport. Olympic sports require a lot of teams to participate and hold down travel costs. Do I think it would make a big difference. No! But I do think there needs to be some type of response to just getting gutted.

 

[TooTall]

Is Rutgers or Northwestern going to be the mutts permanent cross conference rival?