CFB PLAYOFF FINAL AND NO SEC

[Bogey]

Speaking of Texas, in games of theirs I watched, they were 1-3, and fortunate to beat Arizona State in OT. What are they missing on this team, a coach? Even we looked better against uga than they did.

Exactly. I was not impressed with Texas at all as a championship team. With a healthy King, I think we would have stood a pretty good chance of beating them.

 

[4shotB]

An SEC version of Miami and UNC. Where great talent goes to waste.

I think UT, Miami, FSU and UNC don’t really have great talent as much as they have talent that is highly rated. Two different things. I have seen GT beat the 3 ACC teams mentioned and play Uga closer than Texas did in two attempts. Don’t get me wrong… all these teams have some players that would help us immensely.

OSU let UT hang around with stupid drive killing penalties. If they had been firing on all cylinders they would have beat UT as bad as they did the other UT in round one of the playoffs.

 

[leatherneckjacket]

Yep. This year it would have been probably Oregon and Georgia. Most people would have said they got it right. Never have trusted the media.

Even in the four team playoff, it would have been Oregon. Georgia, Penn State and Texas. Notre Dame and OSU were 5th and 6th in the rankings.

 

[Jetdrive3]

We BEAT those uga bastards

Moral victories count?

 

[leatherneckjacket]

ND would have been a top 4 team under the previous CFP, they were only bumped down because of the requirement for Boise and ASU to get byes.

I agree with your other post about expanding the playoff further being bad. Unlike basketball where injury is not nearly as common, a further expanded playoff overwhelmingly favors the Ohio States, Notre Dames, ugas, etc who have 4/5 stars 3 deep at every position. They can absorb injuries much better than a team like Tech who may have some stars starting but drops off if those guys get hurt. I'm personally still a fan of having 8 conference champs only, perhaps with a qualifier that they must have some minimum record (no more than 3 losses) or they lose their seed to the highest ranked non-conf champ.

This does not make sense. Bumping them down two means they would have to be the 6th seed to get in the old CFP, not 7th.

 

[stinger 1957]

Think there is a lot more to recruiting than just looking at their skill set. Bear Bryant used to take the lesser talent kid for one that had the heart, want to drive etc. The kid that will lay it all out there for his teammates. Haynes King anyone? There are others on present GT team, don't want to slight anyone.

 

[yeti92]

This does not make sense. Bumping them down two means they would have to be the 6th seed to get in the old CFP, not 7th.

The final ranking was not indicative of where teams actually would have finished, it was done for seeding purposes. ND was 4th in week 15, and given that Texas lost a 2nd time to ugag, Texas would not have kept a spot in the 4 team playoff because nobody wants to see that game a 3rd time. With the 12 team playoff, it doesn't matter, Texas would still be in.

 

[Richard7125]

The final ranking was not indicative of where teams actually would have finished, it was done for seeding purposes. ND was 4th in week 15, and given that Texas lost a 2nd time to ugag, Texas would not have kept a spot in the 4 team playoff because nobody wants to see that game a 3rd time. With the 12 team playoff, it doesn't matter, Texas would still be in.

Yeah, I completely agree with this. ND would have been in. I think they even said they weren’t going to (overly) penalize teams for losing in their conference championship game (which makes sense in a 12 team playoff). With only 4 teams, the losers of the conference championship games for the most part were eliminated.

 

[Richard7125]

If it was just 4 teams this year, i think Oregon, UGA, and ND were in. It would have been interesting to see who got in between Texas, OSU and Penn State.

 

[jgtengineer]

If it was just 4 teams this year, i think Oregon, UGA, and ND were in. It would have been interesting to see who got in between Texas, OSU and Penn State.

I think if it were only 4 teams this year you'd heva seen it be Oregon UGA ND and Boise ( on the heisman hype of jeanty) They would have use the "won the championship game) excuse and stuck boise in to appear like they weren't biasing. The rankigns would have been Oregon UGA Boise ND so that you didn't have a rematch, the NC would have been Oregon ND.

 

[GTJackets]

We can only hope. However, since the 9-12 seeds all lost pretty badly, look for SECheat/B1G to put a *major* push on next year for more teams.

We are in a catch-22 situation. If ND wins, it bolsters the case of non-P2 conferences. However, it also bolsters their case for not joining a conference.

The SEC will push based on the 9-12 seeds all losing pretty badly while hoping no one notices that one of them that lost by 25 was one of their teams. And that their champ went one an done getting beat by an independent. And their only team to get a win (they won two to be fair) needed 2OT and some help from a questionable targeting no-call to get past the BIG12 champs in their second game.

So, essentially they should be standing quietly beside the B1G hoping to not get called out for their performance this year. Of course they won't because standing quietly isn't their style. They'll bark the loudest and many will accept it blindly.

I'm just glad Texas is out. Can't imagine the noise out of Athens if they went 2-0 against the CFP Champs.

 

[jgtengineer]

Even in the four team playoff, it would have been Oregon. Georgia, Penn State and Texas. Notre Dame and OSU were 5th and 6th in the rankings.

ND was only 5th because they couldn't have a bye

 

[FredJacket]

ND was only 5th because they couldn't have a bye

I think I understand what you're saying... but just to be clear... you are not suggesting that a 12-0 ND team would have been "ranked" 5th by the committee because they couldn't get a bye. Right?

You're saying what a lot here have implied... the committee goes freelance on their own criteria & sets rankings based on things like matchups, potential rematches, & political/monetary influences. None of that is part of the criteria. The criteria for the committee ranking 1-25 did not change when we went from 4 to 12 teams as far as I know.

Based on their final rankings a 4 team playoff would have been Oregon, UGA, OSU, & Penn St. They don't set their rankings based on byes & matchups. The field & bracket is set based on rankings AND the rule that top 4 conference champs get byes. Otherwise, the committee would have had Boise at #3 & ASU at #4.

 

[jgtengineer]

I think I understand what you're saying... but just to be clear... you are not suggesting that a 12-0 ND team would have been "ranked" 5th by the committee because they couldn't get a bye. Right?

You're saying what a lot here have implied... the committee goes freelance on their own criteria & sets rankings based on things like matchups, potential rematches, & political/monetary influences. None of that is part of the criteria. The criteria for the committee ranking 1-25 did not change when we went from 4 to 12 teams as far as I know.

Based on their final rankings a 4 team playoff would have been Oregon, UGA, OSU, & Penn St. They don't set their rankings based on byes & matchups. The field & bracket is set based on rankings AND the rule that top 4 conference champs get byes. Otherwise, the committee would have had Boise at #3 & ASU at a

A 12-0 ND would have been ranked up at 1 or 2 this year and seeded 5th. Because they had the loss they didn't bother ranking them higher.

They are subjective as hell. They would not have left off ND And there would have been pressure to only take conference champions from the major conferences in a 4 team.

 

[Ramble1885]

Yep. This year it would have been probably Oregon and Georgia. Most people would have said they got it right. Never have trusted the media.

Frank Crane, author of Four Minute Essays, said, “You may be deceived if you trust too much, but you will live in torment if you don't trust enough”

ESPN isn't what is was, but at the end of the day the media simply does their job.

ESPN analysts all don't have the same opinion. At the beginning of the season Lee Corso predicted that nobody would finish unbeaten and that the winner might even have two losses. Kirk thought he was crazy. It's clear that Kirk (being an OSU man) wants juggernauts and elite big brand teams. But Lee Corso, Joey Galloway, Rod Gilmore, Roddy Jones, Jesse Palmer, among others are great analysts with usually great insight to the game.

 

[gte447f]

In some underground bunker right now, the SEC intelligencia is hard work trying to regain control of the playoff narrative.

No such thing exists

 

[GT33]

No such thing exists

In some underground bunker right now, the SEC intelligencia is hard work trying to regain control of the playoff narrative.

I think the term he was looking for was cabal. There's nothing intelligent in the incessant drivel coming out of the SEC propagandists. We seem to be emerging from the darkness into some sort of period of enlightenment where all the BS we've been fed over the years about the alleged superiority of the sec is now becoming apparent to even the most casual observers.

The ACC needs a similar gut check. The level of competition in the major sports in our conference is rapidly eroding to the point where it is becoming unmistakably bad.

 

[Jerry the Jacket]

Here is how I have the current rankings based on how the CFP has played out so far:

12. Tennessee (sorry showing)
11. SMU (looked in over their head)
10. Boise State (Just never threatened or looked competitive)
9. Clemson (Clemsoned)
8. Indiana (Outmanned but did put up a good fight)
7. Georgia (Just never lived up to the hype)
6. Oregon (Looked totally out manned)
5. Arizona State (got more out of their talent than anyone)
4. Texas (exposed in the end)
3. Penn State (Pretty solid team but needs a better QB)
2 and 1 either or Notre Dame and Ohio State (Going to be a dog fight but OSU has more bullets)

Even though Georgia beat Texas twice I give Texas extra credit for winning 2 playoff games vs UGA's none.

To be honest, on any given Saturday our team could hang with any of these teams. Just not a big delta between the top 60 or so collegiate football teams.

Go Jackets!

 

[Jerry the Jacket]

Here is how I have the current rankings based on how the CFP has played out so far:

12. Tennessee (sorry showing)
11. SMU (looked in over their head)
10. Boise State (Just never threatened or looked competitive)
9. Clemson (Clemsoned)
8. Indiana (Outmanned but did put up a good fight)
7. Georgia (Just never lived up to the hype)
6. Oregon (Looked totally out manned)
5. Arizona State (got more out of their talent than anyone)
4. Texas (exposed in the end)
3. Penn State (Pretty solid team but needs a better QB)
2 and 1 either or Notre Dame and Ohio State (Going to be a dog fight but OSU has more bullets)

Even though Georgia beat Texas twice I give Texas extra credit for winning 2 playoff games vs UGA's none.

To be honest, on any given Saturday our team could hang with any of these teams. Just not a big delta between the top 60 or so collegiate football teams.

Go Jackets!

 

[UgaBlows]

Here is how I have the current rankings based on how the CFP has played out so far:

12. Tennessee (sorry showing)
11. SMU (looked in over their head)
10. Boise State (Just never threatened or looked competitive)
9. Clemson (Clemsoned)
8. Indiana (Outmanned but did put up a good fight)
7. Georgia (Just never lived up to the hype)
6. Oregon (Looked totally out manned)
5. Arizona State (got more out of their talent than anyone)
4. Texas (exposed in the end)
3. Penn State (Pretty solid team but needs a better QB)
2 and 1 either or Notre Dame and Ohio State (Going to be a dog fight but OSU has more bullets)

Even though Georgia beat Texas twice I give Texas extra credit for winning 2 playoff games vs UGA's none.

To be honest, on any given Saturday our team could hang with any of these teams. Just not a big delta between the top 60 or so collegiate football teams.

Go Jackets!

I think Indiana is a better team than UG