CFB PLAYOFF FINAL AND NO SEC

[roadkill]

Please be aware that D2 & FCS only have a 10 game regular season before the media picks the playoff teams and seeding. Good luck getting FBS conferences and schools to agree to drop 2 games.
In my opinion, it needs to be either 8 or 16 and the first rounds are played at home. If I win my conference and ranked in the top half, I want that first round game in my house with my fans in a sell out, not some bye to then play in a neutral site outta state.

Sure about that? I wasn't, so I randomly checked 3 FCS teams - VMI, The Citadel, and Furman. All played 12 games in 2024, with no bowls.

That said, I could see an expanded FBS playoff generating an incentive to do away with conference championships.

 

[Randy Carson]

Watching the replay just now of last night’s game, I hate it that UTA botched that 4th and goal into a scoop and score. I would have loved for Texas to have beaten them, save for the fact that they are SECheat now.
The enemy of my enemy, and all that.

Never give the SEC an inch.

Never.

 

[yeti92]

FCS Championship since 2011. you will see a pattern

34	2011​	January 7, 2012​	North Dakota State	17–6​	Sam Houston State	Frisco, TX	20,586​	Craig Bohl
35	2012​	January 5, 2013​	North Dakota State (2)	39–13​	Sam Houston State	Frisco, TX	21,411​	Craig Bohl (2)
36	2013​	January 4, 2014​	North Dakota State (3)	35–7​	Towson	Frisco, TX	19,802​	Craig Bohl (3)
37	2014​	January 10, 2015​	North Dakota State (4)	29–27​	Illinois State	Frisco, TX	20,918​	Chris Klieman
38	2015​	January 9, 2016​	North Dakota State (5)	37–10​	Jacksonville State	Frisco, TX	21,836​	Chris Klieman (2)
39	2016​	January 7, 2017​	James Madison (2)	28–14​	Youngstown State	Frisco, TX	14,423​	Mike Houston
40	2017​	January 6, 2018​	North Dakota State (6)	17–13​	James Madison	Frisco, TX	19,090​	Chris Klieman (3)
41	2018​	January 5, 2019​	North Dakota State (7)	38–24​	Eastern Washington	Frisco, TX	17,802​	Chris Klieman (4)
42	2019​	January 11, 2020​	North Dakota State (8)	28–20​	James Madison	Frisco, TX	17,866​	Matt Entz
43	2020​	May 16, 2021​	Sam Houston	23–21​	South Dakota State	Frisco, TX	7,840​	K. C. Keeler (2)
44	2021​	January 8, 2022​	North Dakota State (9)	38–10​	Montana State	Frisco, TX	18,942​	Matt Entz (2)
45	2022​	January 8, 2023​	South Dakota State	45–21​	North Dakota State	Frisco, TX	18,023​	John Stiegelmeier
46	2023​	January 7, 2024​	South Dakota State (2)	23–3​	Montana	Frisco, TX	19,512​	Jimmy Rogers
47	2024​	January 6, 2025​	North Dakota State (10)	35–32​	Montana State	Frisco, TX	18,005​	Tim Polasek

Thanks for sharing. It looks like North Dakota State has dominated the playoff for most of the last 15 years, from both high and low seed positions. Seems to me that would support my idea that further expanding the playoffs makes it less likely for anyone but the very stacked teams to win a championship. At least 3 of the other teams listed have also moved up to FBS since then.

 

[Richard7125]

They have a sweetheart deal with the ACC. P4 football games guaranteed with 5 ACC a year and also full schedule with all other sports. What a deal. Swofford was such a sucker. They would have an awful time scheduling all those sports if totally independent.

Yes they do, but the ACC reaps rewards for having 5 guaranteed games against ND too. Part of the reason Tech led ACC viewership this year was because they played FSU, ND and UGA.

 

[Randy Carson]

Is the 68-team NCAAT any better than the 32 team version of the late 70’s/early 80’s?

Yes.

Who doesn't love seeing a 15 oust a second-seeded team? The first two days of March Madness are magical.

 

[Richard7125]

Yes.

I agree, but i don't think the 68 is better than the 64 team tournament.

 

[yeti92]

Yes they do, but the ACC reaps rewards for having 5 guaranteed games against ND too. Part of the reason Tech led ACC viewership this year was because they played FSU, ND and UGA.

Incorrect, Notre Dame actually lowered Tech's average viewership numbers. FSU, Miami, and ugag were the big games that boosted viewership.

 

[stinger78]

Yes.

Who doesn't love seeing a 15 oust a second-seeded team? The first two days of March Madness are magical.

Thank you for your opinion. From a monetary standpoint, I would agree. I haven’t watched a first or second round game in years unless it was GT… which means… in years.

LOL. Heading into 2024, only 11 #15-seeds has ever beaten a #2-seed. The record was 11-141, a 7.24 winning percentage. It happens, but not much: 11 in 32 years.

 

[Richard7125]

Incorrect, Notre Dame actually lowered Tech's average viewership numbers. FSU, Miami, and ugag were the big games that boosted viewership.

Tech v ND was the #9 most watch game of week 8. None of the other ACC teams the Tech didn't play would have generated that type of viewership except maybe Clemson. Point being ND draws eyes. Not sure why people struggle to acknowledge that.

 

[Techwood Relict]

In prior Yeats,

May I say, I am mighty impressed that your auto correct includes legitimate reading material.....

 

[SOWEGA Jacket]

The playoffs will keep expanding as they should. The portal and NIL have flattened the gap between the upper tier and lower tier teams and have made the middle 60 teams a crapshoot. It’s awesome.

I consider the 2025 National Championship game to be the first legit champion in NCAA history. That we have a #7 seed playing a #8 seed proves that the fake media, BCS, and 4 team champions are all fake.

The next 20 years of data will prove this out and my grandkids of the future will laugh at all these “selected” champions of the past as they should. We are finally close to a legit sport where all schools have a chance if they decide to compete. They no longer have to fight biased media or under the table payments. I can’t wait for further expansion and seeing more fanbases fall in love with the sport.

 

[yeti92]

Tech v ND was the #9 most watch game of week 8. None of the other ACC teams the Tech didn't play would have generated that type of viewership except maybe Clemson. Point being ND draws eyes. Not sure why people struggle to acknowledge that.

Nobody is arguing that, but that's not what you said.

Tech led the ACC in average viewership, but not in total viewership. Average viewership for the GT-ND game was 1.59m viewers. Average viewership for Tech was 3.1m viewers. FSU, Miami, ugag, and Vandy all were above the average. ND was below.

 

[stinger78]

 

[Richard7125]

Nobody is arguing that, but that's not what you said.

Tech led the ACC in average viewership, but not in total viewership. Average viewership for the GT-ND game was 1.59m viewers. Average viewership for Tech was 3.1m viewers. FSU, Miami, ugag, and Vandy all were above the average. ND was below.

Quit responding to what I say, and respond to what i mean

 

[Northeast Stinger]

Quit responding to what I say, and respond to what i mean

Therein lies the problem with our fractured and divided culture. Some jerk is always making you accountable for what you say.

 

[orientalnc]

 

[TooTall]

FCS played 12 regular season games this year. Normally they play 11 but for some reason the calendar let them play 12 this year

"In championship subdivision football, a member institution shall limit its total regular-season playing schedule with outside competition during the permissible football playing season in any one year to 11 contests (games or scrimmages), except as provided for member institutions located in Alaska and Hawaii, under Bylaw 17.31.2, and except as provided for all members under Bylaw 17.11.6.2. Twelve football contests shall be permissible during those years in which there are 14 Saturdays from the first permissible playing date through the last playing date in November"

straight from here: https://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/D124.pdf

Thanks for the update. Since GA Sou has gone to G5 I haven't had a local team that is FCS. D2 is still at 10 per year.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

This. Has. To. Be. Hard. For. Them. To. Admit.

 

[Heisman's Ghost]

It’s late, and I should be in bed but I was looking everywhere for a thread celebrating the SEC being left out again from the finals. Didn’t see one so here it is.

How do you feel about this? Was the SEC cheated out of their rightful place as Sankey suggested previously? Nah, that’s not a serious question. Is this, along with NIL, the end of SEC hegemony? On a scale of 1-10 how satisfied are you with a final pairing sans the SEC?

It just means less.

 

[Heisman's Ghost]

Speaking of Texas, in games of theirs I watched, they were 1-3, and fortunate to beat Arizona State in OT. What are they missing on this team, a coach? Even we looked better against uga than they did.

An SEC version of Miami and UNC. Where great talent goes to waste.