CFB PLAYOFF FINAL AND NO SEC

GT33

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We can only hope. However, since the 9-12 seeds all lost pretty badly, look for SECheat/B1G to put a *major* push on next year for more teams.

We are in a catch-22 situation. If ND wins, it bolsters the case of non-P2 conferences. However, it also bolsters their case for not joining a conference.
I don’t follow the 1-as/Div 2 whatever they call it these days but the beauty of that system is you get a chance to win it on the field not some media coronation. I’m sure the top 3-4 teams tend to win, but a lot of teams get a chance. The home games are fantastic.

Open this up to 24 teams, 8 byes. Big $$ win for everyone. Top 25 minus a team or 2 gets invited. 8 teams get a week bye, but the top 8 still have to win 4 and take it all. It only takes a month and look what you get, a pretty damn good process like basketball has.
 

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The playoff is accomplishing what any reasonable fan wants (& gets) with a tournament to determine a champion.

The field is large enough to include any team who's played well enough to compete for the title (plus a few extra).

The 2 finalists were 5th & 6th in the committee's final rankings & have played the best football on the field through the tournament so far... they've earned their shot.

It's been a resounding success. Need to tweak/change the seeding thing.
 

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The playoff is accomplishing what any reasonable fan wants (& gets) with a tournament to determine a champion.

The field is large enough to include any team who's played well enough to compete for the title (plus a few extra).

The 2 finalists were 5th & 6th in the committee's final rankings & have played the best football on the field through the tournament so far... they've earned their shot.

It's been a resounding success. Need to tweak/change the seeding thing.
Yep, the 12 team format pretty much guarantees (ie 99% range) you’ve got the team that can win it all. So, adding more teams is not adding teams that can win it; adding more teams is simply a way to increase the overall value of the CFP to TV. I think that will happen whether it be 14 teams or 16 teams.
 

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If increased to 32 teams, that’s 5 games for teams in the champ game.

Unlike basketball, that’s an extra half season at a higher probability of injury than you see in any other sport.

Imagine Haynes King having that in front of him after the UGAg game.

I think more than 16 is a non-starter, and 12 is four too many.

Just my $.02 worth.
 

Richard7125

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Some want to assume the SEC and Big10 are in lock-step with decisions, but in my opinion, the Big10 has fewer super teams than the SEC. Their strategy on CFP expansion will be different than the SEC’s. I actually think they are a good ballast against SEC strong-arming.
 

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The top 4 seeded teams all lost. The 9-12 teams all lost.
I bumped this first!

Next Thanksgiving someone should bump this again as i will forget where it is located.

GT in 2024 was in that 5-8 portion of ACC. At end of year the top acc teams all had healthy qb for the entire season. I am very proud of the assendence Gt 24.
 

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I bumped this first!

Next Thanksgiving someone should bump this again as i will forget where it is located.

GT in 2024 was in that 5-8 portion of ACC. At end of year the top acc teams all had healthy qb for the entire season. I am very proud of the assendence Gt 24.
Furthermore, the last two teams standing are the bottom two of the 5-8 group - seed #’s 7 and 8.

Oddly illustrative of what the playoff committee knows.
 

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Furthermore, the last two teams standing are the bottom two of the 5-8 group - seed #’s 7 and 8.

Oddly illustrative of what the playoff committee knows.
ND would have been a top 4 team under the previous CFP, they were only bumped down because of the requirement for Boise and ASU to get byes.

I agree with your other post about expanding the playoff further being bad. Unlike basketball where injury is not nearly as common, a further expanded playoff overwhelmingly favors the Ohio States, Notre Dames, ugas, etc who have 4/5 stars 3 deep at every position. They can absorb injuries much better than a team like Tech who may have some stars starting but drops off if those guys get hurt. I'm personally still a fan of having 8 conference champs only, perhaps with a qualifier that they must have some minimum record (no more than 3 losses) or they lose their seed to the highest ranked non-conf champ.
 

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In some underground bunker right now, the SEC intelligencia is hard work trying to regain control of the playoff narrative.

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Makes you wonder if they got it right all those years when they only picked 2-4 teams?

Glorious isn’t it.
The answer is no they did not get it correct many of those years. TV Networks wanted Brand Name Teams playing! As long as the 5 Conference Champions get in and the Top 4 have byes the CFP will provide interesting results. If they go to Committee seeding, like many want, it will be back to the ESPN favored teams getting the best seeding and opportunity to make the CFP final!
 

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Watching the replay just now of last night’s game, I hate it that UTA botched that 4th and goal into a scoop and score. I would have loved for Texas to have beaten them, save for the fact that they are SECheat now.
The enemy of my enemy, and all that.
 

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Did anybody see how much money ND got for this championship game appearance? Plus probably at least $10m in ticket revenue from their home playoff game. They are most likely the new kings of CFB at least until the next round of re-alignment.

They have special circumstances that I'm not sure any other team could pull off as an Independent. If Alabama left the SEC and went independent, they would not get the same type of TV money that ND gets.
 

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According to final committee rankings, a 4 team field would have been...
Oregon
UGA
Texas
Penn State

ND & OSU would have been first 2 out.
Honestly doubt that it would’ve been cut and dried those four (in that order at least) if it was a 4-team. UGA and Texas aren’t playing a third time if they have a choice, so either Texas drops to 4 or is out entirely. OSU and PSU both would have 2 losses, with OSU having the head to head win. And ND would have a solid argument being 11-1 with 8 P4 wins + Navy, and being a major brand name.
 

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Did anybody see how much money ND got for this championship game appearance? Plus probably at least $10m in ticket revenue from their home playoff game. They are most likely the new kings of CFB at least until the next round of re-alignment.

They have special circumstances that I'm not sure any other team could pull off as an Independent. If Alabama left the SEC and went independent, they would not get the same type of TV money that ND gets.
The only way to stop ND is for all conferences not to schedule them in football, force their hand ( but we all know that won’t work)
 

apatriot1776

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Did anybody see how much money ND got for this championship game appearance? Plus probably at least $10m in ticket revenue from their home playoff game. They are most likely the new kings of CFB at least until the next round of re-alignment.

They have special circumstances that I'm not sure any other team could pull off as an Independent. If Alabama left the SEC and went independent, they would not get the same type of TV money that ND gets.
Had Clemson or SMU made the championship game, they also would’ve taken $20m for themselves. As of this year the ACC no longer shares among the conference.
 
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