Buster Faulkner likely returns

[RonJohn]

Yeah, pretty bad look here. However, since you asked, it did pop into my mind, sad though that is.

I think it is far too early to make fun of the truck attack situation. However, it is telling that nobody needs an explanation to understand exactly what he is talking about. You are not the first person I have heard say that this thought actually occurred to them upon first hearing the news. As much as Kirby likes to claim that there are not cultural issues with the team, it is obvious to everyone on the outside that there are. It falls down from the top. Kirby acts like a toddler on the sideline. A walk-on acted like a toddler on the sideline (looking just like Kirby) and was flagged for it. Many of their players act like toddlers behind the wheel of cars.

 

[jgtengineer]

But who would want to run that old boring prehistoric style offense at uga when you can run the brand new 21st century style offense at Tech?

We... run the same offense. At its core both offenses are RPO based short passing game offenses. Uga goes undercenter a bit more than us but for the most part the offensive styles are carbon copies ( bennett had enough wheels to keep defenses respecting the keep. Beck and Stockton not so much hence getting blasted by notre dame ole miss and bama). Its mainly because faulkner designed theres with monken and bobo.

 

[stinger78]

The BCF Toys website (FEI) has three measures of SOS. The Dwags schedule was ranked 5, 1 and 3 by those. No other school has three numbers that low, so it’s legit to say they had the hardest schedule.

“Hardest” is a superlative statement. It refers to the hardest of three or more. It doesn’t mean it was hard.

Example: UGA is the hardest SEC school academically in GA, AL, and SC.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

We... run the same offense. At its core both offenses are RPO based short passing game offenses. Uga goes undercenter a bit more than us but for the most part the offensive styles are carbon copies ( bennett had enough wheels to keep defenses respecting the keep. Beck and Stockton not so much hence getting blasted by notre dame ole miss and bama). Its mainly because faulkner designed theres with monken and bobo.

I see a lot of differences. But that’s just me.

 

[jgtengineer]

I see a lot of differences. But that’s just me.

There are differences in play selection, there are very few differences in route concepts, play designs and run designs. We don't really run a "unique" offense anymore. Kiffen's offense is basically the same as ours too (as are about 45 percent of all offenses in college football). What we do do is disguise with motions a bit more. This has benefited us with the portal. This year we leaned a lot more on our QB run game and short passing game. Last year we were more downfield. It really wasn't even a difference of play calls it was that King stopped being able to really hit the deep shot on plays and was checking down to the bubble/RB/TE short routes.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

There are differences in play selection, there are very few differences in route concepts, play designs and run designs. We don't really run a "unique" offense anymore. Kiffen's offense is basically the same as ours too (as are about 45 percent of all offenses in college football). What we do do is disguise with motions a bit more. This has benefited us with the portal. This year we leaned a lot more on our QB run game and short passing game. Last year we were more downfield. It really wasn't even a difference of play calls it was that King stopped being able to really hit the deep shot on plays and was checking down to the bubble/RB/TE short routes.

Yet, the thing is, that even with all this, most of the color analysts who worked Tech games referred to Tech as more of an option offense. These are usually former players who see slight distinctions in what Tech is doing. Yes, there is a lot of eye candy tacked on to further confuse the defense but the principles are the same. Yes, a lot of plays seem standard now with most teams, bubble screens and RPO plays in particular. When analysts speak of uga’s running game, however, they refer to it as a power running game. We saw them run a lot of that against Notre Dame. I understand that you see that as a difference in play calling. I see it as more of a difference in offensive identity. But I’m happy to agree to disagree.

Funny thing is, my original comment was a light hearted slap at Bobo and uga, claiming we have something better. I guess my joke fell flat with some. But I still would not trade Faulkner, nor his offensive scheme, for what Bobo is doing at uga.

 

[jgtengineer]

Yet, the thing is, that even with all this, most of the color analysts who worked Tech games referred to Tech as more of an option offense. These are usually former players who see slight distinctions in what Tech is doing. Yes, there is a lot of eye candy tacked on to further confuse the defense but the principles are the same. Yes, a lot of plays seem standard now with most teams, bubble screens and RPO plays in particular. When analysts speak of uga’s running game, however, they refer to it as a power running game. We saw them run a lot of that against Notre Dame. I understand that you see that as a difference in play calling. I see it as more of a difference in offensive identity. But I’m happy to agree to disagree.

Funny thing is, my original comment was a light hearted slap at Bobo and uga, claiming we have something better. I guess my joke fell flat with some. But I still would not trade Faulkner, nor his offensive scheme, for what Bobo is doing at uga.

We run a lot of counter and when we had dontae Smith we actually ran a ton of power last year towards the end of the year. That was one of the things that was missing this year. A power back to run true power schemes.

RPO is an option offense. They aren't wrong. If uga had a qb like King or Dart Or milroe youd see it more from them.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

We run a lot of counter and when we had dontae Smith we actually ran a ton of power last year towards the end of the year. That was one of the things that was missing this year. A power back to run true power schemes.

RPO is an option offense. They aren't wrong. If uga had a qb like King or Dart Or milroe youd see it more from them.

I’m up at this weird hour because I have the flu and wake up coughing. What’s your excuse?

 

[jgtengineer]

I’m up at this weird hour because I have the flu and wake up coughing. What’s your excuse?

I work pst but am on the east coast so its only the reasonable late hour of 0130 for me

 

[iceeater1969]

There are differences in play selection, there are very few differences in route concepts, play designs and run designs. We don't really run a "unique" offense anymore. Kiffen's offense is basically the same as ours too (as are about 45 percent of all offenses in college football). What we do do is disguise with motions a bit more. This has benefited us with the portal. This year we leaned a lot more on our QB run game and short passing game. Last year we were more downfield. It really wasn't even a difference of play calls it was that King stopped being able to really hit the deep shot on plays and was checking down to the bubble/RB/TE short routes.

Its impossible to check bown to a bubble screen- agree?
We went to near zero interceptions or fumbles on purpose - agree?
We thru down field at lot less but didn’t get interception - agree.
We thru more downfield in uga and offense came alive - agree? What could king do better?

Its more that Key wanted to bully ball with a veteran ol of his own choosing. He ran the qb to death.

 

[Oldgoldandwhite]

Georgia’s offense, for many years, has been don’t beat yourself. Run the ball, TE passes, screens, and occasionally the long ball. Play tough defense. Similar to most good SEC teams.

 

[jgtengineer]

Its impossible to check bown to a bubble screen- agree?
We went to near zero interceptions or fumbles on purpose - agree?
We thru down field at lot less but didn’t get interception - agree.
We thru more downfield in uga and offense came alive - agree? What could king do better?

Its more that Key wanted to bully ball with a veteran ol of his own choosing. He ran the qb to death.

Not on a check post bubble alert rpo. Which is a front side post backside screen alert rpo triple that you read at play start. If the safety rolls into cover 3 you through the short post otherwise you turn a read for handing the ball off to the run or tossing. Out to the slot running a 2 man bubble screen with the outside receiver.

The post takes a very strong arm to throw as you are threading that between a likely buzzing linebacker and the safety for a gain of around 8. But potentially... A TD. It's a shot play one we stopped using. One of many.

I don't want to say that you might not have a grasp on these offensive concepts but the tone of your post was trying to play gotcha games and you might not have the ammo for this fight.

 

[iceeater1969]

Not on a check post bubble alert rpo. Which is a front side post backside screen alert rpo triple that you read at play start. If the safety rolls into cover 3 you through the short post otherwise you turn a read for handing the ball off to the run or tossing. Out to the slot running a 2 man bubble screen with the outside receiver.

The post takes a very strong arm to throw as you are threading that between a likely buzzing linebacker and the safety for a gain of around 8. But potentially... A TD. It's a shot play one we stopped using. One of many.

I don't want to say that you might not have a grasp on these offensive concepts but the tone of your post was trying to play gotcha games and you might not have the ammo for this fight.

I asked a few simple questions - dont want a fight.

I think we opened up offense at uga verses first half of Sycuse. Agree?

Are u saying King cant pass long w accuracy?

.

 

[jgtengineer]

I asked a few simple questions - dont want a fight.

I think we opened up offense at uga verses first half of Sycuse. Agree?

Are u saying King cant pass long w accuracy?

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King can do when he's healthy the injury he suffered caused him pain every throw it effected his ability to drive the ball. UGA he didn't care and drive through the pain. UNC he missed on most of his deep shots because of it. At Syracuse we definitely were trying to run the ball and possess it and it didn't work.

 

[iceeater1969]

King can do when he's healthy the injury he suffered caused him pain every throw it effected his ability to drive the ball. UGA he didn't care and drive through the pain. UNC he missed on most of his deep shots because of it. At Syracuse we definitely were trying to run the ball and possess it and it didn't work.

First , i love key as building head coach. Llayers love him, students love him , Prez and AD love him. The new staff is doing great. The chaos of portal and the new staff and this being keys first job, have lead to some in game errors. We have a few games where we stuck with run game that was not working ( hoping for big play). Please remember that the tall wr and tall te were supposed to be ready but their injuries made them ineffective. Key can easily improve the in game issues.

Also

I love King as gt qb. I can say he is great at the short passing qb run game = number show it. I think he is fine at midrange and does not throw int. Numbers show it.

I do not know that he is good at long ball - last year year we had to score and this year the classic pass block go long was only used sparingly. Seemed like he was seldom given - assume pass pro for 5 seconds read deep and mid range play. Hard to say one way or the other.

After FSU, we played real games against S cuse Louisville Duke and then game 7 was unc. In games 2 and 6, scuse and Louisville, the run game, less king, was terrible) at about 90 yds in 40 carries. King got 140 with 20 carries. Imo, the run was shutdown. KEY did not adjust to take risk on mid range plays and open up the run

On rivals it said In practice before uga, king s should rehabilitation was going very well AND HE WAS ZIPPING THE BALL. We burned their axx.

Wish King had stayed health. IF SO king key and buster could have ead gt on an epic end season run..


Do you have a source for when king hurt his shoulder? My source says late in unc? It was just beforec want point in unc did he start throwing high? I am 99% sure it was late in unc.

WITH NEXT YEARS OL GETTING WAY LESS EXPIERENCED but POSSIBLY WAY MORE ATHLETIC, our season, on offense, could be wsy worse or way better. With much easier schedule, i trust key to make it happen. Going to be very fun.

 

[forensicbuzz]

Not on a check post bubble alert rpo. Which is a front side post backside screen alert rpo triple that you read at play start. If the safety rolls into cover 3 you through the short post otherwise you turn a read for handing the ball off to the run or tossing. Out to the slot running a 2 man bubble screen with the outside receiver.

The post takes a very strong arm to throw as you are threading that between a likely buzzing linebacker and the safety for a gain of around 8. But potentially... A TD. It's a shot play one we stopped using. One of many.

I don't want to say that you might not have a grasp on these offensive concepts but the tone of your post was trying to play gotcha games and you might not have the ammo for this fight.

I think King’s shoulder, although better, was not 100%. I don’t think King could make that post throw, which is why it got shelved. The interception against Vandy is a throw he completes with more zip on the ball (like he had last year). I think his lack of arm strength gave the defender time to step in front and pick that throw off. So, I agree with you.

 

[jgtengineer]

I think King’s shoulder, although better, was not 100%. I don’t think King could make that post throw, which is why it got shelved. The interception against Vandy is a throw he completes with more zip on the ball (like he had last year). I think his lack of arm strength gave the defender time to step in front and pick that throw off. So, I agree with you.

Yep honestly we saw a similar thing happen with kirk Cousins and the falcons over the year. He was making all sorts of throws in october only to get hit on his throwing elbow and suddenly those throws became picks.

 

[jgtengineer]

First , i love key as building head coach. Llayers love him, students love him , Prez and AD love him. The new staff is doing great. The chaos of portal and the new staff and this being keys first job, have lead to some in game errors. We have a few games where we stuck with run game that was not working ( hoping for big play). Please remember that the tall wr and tall te were supposed to be ready but their injuries made them ineffective. Key can easily improve the in game issues.

Also

I love King as gt qb. I can say he is great at the short passing qb run game = number show it. I think he is fine at midrange and does not throw int. Numbers show it.

I do not know that he is good at long ball - last year year we had to score and this year the classic pass block go long was only used sparingly. Seemed like he was seldom given - assume pass pro for 5 seconds read deep and mid range play. Hard to say one way or the other.

After FSU, we played real games against S cuse Louisville Duke and then game 7 was unc. In games 2 and 6, scuse and Louisville, the run game, less king, was terrible) at about 90 yds in 40 carries. King got 140 with 20 carries. Imo, the run was shutdown. KEY did not adjust to take risk on mid range plays and open up the run

On rivals it said In practice before uga, king s should rehabilitation was going very well AND HE WAS ZIPPING THE BALL. We burned their axx.

Wish King had stayed health. IF SO king key and buster could have ead gt on an epic end season run..


Do you have a source for when king hurt his shoulder? My source says late in unc? It was just beforec want point in unc did he start throwing high? I am 99% sure it was late in unc.

WITH NEXT YEARS OL GETTING WAY LESS EXPIERENCED but POSSIBLY WAY MORE ATHLETIC, our season, on offense, could be wsy worse or way better. With much easier schedule, i trust key to make it happen. Going to be very fun.

King tweaked his shoulder in FSU. Its what key meant when he said we were banged up.

He aggravated in the first half of the UNC game on an uncalled roughing. But he was already tweaked even as early as Georgia State.

 

[Root4GT]

King can do when he's healthy the injury he suffered caused him pain every throw it effected his ability to drive the ball. UGA he didn't care and drive through the pain. UNC he missed on most of his deep shots because of it. At Syracuse we definitely were trying to run the ball and possess it and it didn't work.

Against Syracuse King three 39 passes. We had 24 running plays including 6 by King.

Interesting take.

 

[jgtengineer]

Against Syracuse King three 39 passes. We had 24 running plays including 6 by King.

Interesting take.

The effect of getting banged up wasn't quite as evident yet. He was losing some zip on things and missing throws he made last year even then. Short throws are part of "possessing" the ball.