How hard is it to understand that Collins is speaking to one audience - 14-18 year old male athletes. And yes, he needs to keep repeating it until all high school players know we don’t run the option anymore. Every movement and every word is for recruiting. He doesn’t have to care one bit about alumni (they aren’t going any where except the graveyard) and he doesn’t have to worry about the media since they all come from the UGA journalism school. It’s almost as if smart folks who post here still believe it’s the old days where the coach has to slap backs and suck up to the rich alum. Collins or any coach will keep his job if he wins. And lose his job (eventually) if he doesn’t. The alumni don’t matter. Collins has been in the SEC at 3 stops - Bama, Florida, and Miss St. as well as being at GT under O’Leary. You don’t have to be an aerospace engineer to know that the most important part of being a head college football coach is recruiting. GT finally has a coach who is attacking the most important ingredient.
In Southern’s first FBS year (2014), Willie Fritz won 9 games and a regular season conference championship for Southern while transitioning from the option. So, in the first year transitioning from the option, with literal FCS players, Fritz excelled with a team that had won 7 games the year prior as an FCS team.
Yeah, I remember the weight thing too. He repeated that one almost a half dozen times and when I added the weights on the rosters the math didn’t match what he said. Like you, I chalked it up to hyperbole which happens when you are selling something.
This is nonsense. Collins knows the media matters and he he much better with the media than his predecessor. He doesn't bring a bunch of gifts and swag to the Packer and Durham show and stay for a whole morning if he doesn't think they matter. He doesn't go on 680 the fan and bring them all their own personalized jerseys if he thinks they don't matter. Likewise, there is no coach that thinks fans and alumni don't matter. That is complete nonsense. There are no sports and there is no money without fans and alumni.
This isn't going away until we start winning. Here's hoping for a good year.
Fans constantly want to make this comparison between Paul and Geoff. Paul knew it was time to step down, and he did that. I don’t know why it’s still being argued and discussed to this day. Paul gave up the reigns because he knew it was the right time, and Geoff was the one chosen to take over. As fans we should be behind the program 100% right now. The wins will come and the progress is very apparent in the recruiting/portal. I just hope a lot of our fans stick through this transition, because I really believe we will be better off on the long term. The wins will come, and the process is well underway as evidenced by the current roster and the incoming recruits.
The comparison in this thread was sparked by what happens many times. Someone comes in and says they don't care about wins and losses and that they understand how awful the situation was and that they know its going to take many years to get us back to competitive football. Others respond in disagreement and we get the same back and forth we always get. Until we win and the "we can't possibly win because the previous regime left us in shambles" argument fades away, we are going to keep having the same arguments. Like I said. Hopefully we start winning this year, although oddly, some of Collins biggest supporters seem hell bent on convincing us that that can't happen.
You are missing the key point on culture. CGC wants to tap heavily into the metro Atlanta talent pool of highly regarded HS football players. Very few ever considered GT under the system CPJ ran. That required a massive culture change on how the football program operated. Repetition was necessary to get the attention of HS Coaches, players and their parents that GT was a place for these athletes. By the way it has worked.
That's flat out not true, there are multiple threads on this forum where people called him out for unnecessarily lying about stuff in his first year, and the general response of those blinded by their blue painted glasses was "don't worry about it, he's not talking to us, its for the recruits".
I believe you should explicitly define what you mean by "lie" and share some examples. I am fine with unwarranted optimism.
I agree with this but part of the reason he was hired was specifically to change the offense. On the defensive side we’ve been bad for year’s precisely because we didn’t have the players needed.
Lying? Some examples would be interesting to read. I’m a retired military guy. You talked about the old guy for 5 mins thanking him for his great service and all the wonderful things he did. You wish him well and move along. If the old guy got fired, maybe he got talked about for a day. The minute you take over, you own it. 100%, warts and all. Excuses are like.... Show me what you can do.
Yes. and look at his schedule that year. Enough said. Try again.
Disagree. You show me where he wasn't straightforward in his messaging.
Like when he said Temple had one the of most dominant front seven in all fbs lol (when we got beat by Temple his first year).
One example has already been mentioned of him lying about linemen's weights. That's not unwarranted optimism, that's making stuff up to make yourself sound better.