I mean, I get if you want to blame Cal if you believe he helped organize or at least knew about Derrick Rose faking the SAT. But how are you going to put Camby on Cal? Camby took money from an agent in his junior year at UMass. Not only did Cal have nothing to gain by that, but that move by Camby actually cost Cal a Final Four. I guess I don't understand the logic of why Cal would have even wanted Camby to take money from an agent?
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I mean, I get if you want to blame Cal if you believe he helped organize or at least knew about Derrick Rose faking the SAT. But how are you going to put Camby on Cal? Camby took money from an agent in his junior year at UMass. Not only did Cal have nothing to gain by that, but that move by Camby actually cost Cal a Final Four. I guess I don't understand the logic of why Cal would have even wanted Camby to take money from an agent?
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Like I said, come up with some proof. You folks are slandering a someone based on rumor. Other people were implicated in, for example, the Camby and Rose situations. Caiapari was not. If he was involved, why would they leave him out?
Do you enjoy slandering people just to propagate a rumor that was probably started by fans who are either jealous or angry? Does that make you look tough or cool or something?
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Last time I checked, Cal is the only coach in history to have to vacate Final Fours from two separate schools due to cheating while he was at the helm. That's a fact, not slander
But you can't prove he knew any of it!
He wasn't there when that 5'3" kid took the SAT for "Derrick Rose"?
And how we he supposed to know Camby was taking duffle bags full-o $100 bills? I mean, Camby was driving a newer car to practice than he was, but why was that supposed to throw up any red flags? Maybe the kid invested his meal money wisely.
Cal is the victim here.
Better get a good lawyer, strahan. Such salacious and slanderous suppositions should schtop expeditiously! Sufferin' succotash!
He wasn't there when that 5'3" kid took the SAT for "Derrick Rose"?
And how we he supposed to know Camby was taking duffle bags full-o $100 bills? I mean, Camby was driving a newer car to practice than he was, but why was that supposed to throw up any red flags? Maybe the kid invested his meal money wisely.
Cal is the victim here.
Better get a good lawyer, strahan. Such salacious and slanderous suppositions should schtop expeditiously! Sufferin' succotash!
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This **** is getting ridiculous. This & Hollywood stars & other rich a$$es trying to pay someone to take their kids sat/act tests & using fake athletic scholarships to get their kids in hard to get in schools. I really would like to see some of these rich jacka$$es who believe they are above the rules do a little jail time.
Accreditation agencies need to take a close look at these "sport" academies. Oh wait... that didn't work at uncheats at all.
I mean, CPJ has a vacated ACC Championship. That is a fact too. Doesn’t mean I think he was a dirty coach or personally had anything to do with it.
If CPJ had the trail of questions that follows Cal and had wins vacated at multiple schools, I'd view him the same way I view Cal.
An awesome coach who wins a ton of games every season?
Basically, but one who has a cloud following him so he (and his fans) shouldn't act all indignant when it rains.
As opposed to our fans acting all indignant when we do it (allegedly) the right way and it rains.
Yup. Rain feels a lot better when you look around at a gang of Final 4 appearances.
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A good friend of mine is a huge UK fan / booster. I asked him what he thought of Cal and the suspicions that follow him. He just laughed and said STTE "We invented cheating. We perfected it. If the Emery Worldwide guy hadn't dropped that package, we would've gotten away with it then too. Who cares? We win."
Wait, for real? You wouldn't look at the circumstances critically before making judgment? CPJ had an ACC Championship vacated because one of his players, on his own, accepted $300 worth of apparel from his cousin who used to be affiliated with an agent (and because our AD I guess didn't fully cooperate with the NCAA). Even if another similar thing happened to CPJ at a different school, I cannot fathom how a rational, critical thinking person would blanket judge him as "dirty." That makes no sense to me.
You can think Cal is all kinds of dirty for the things he may never have been caught doing. That is all conjecture, but completely your right. But to look specifically at the Camby and Rose stories and say that is the basis for thinking Cal is dirty is a bit silly IMHO.
That's not what I said and I'm not going to rundown all the reasons I and others view Cal with a side-eye.
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This begs the "Devil's Deal" question: If GT could make 2 Final Fours in 5 seasons, and make the NCAA tourney the other 3 seasons, but GT would get those wins vacated and GT would lose 2 scholarships for 4 years and a postseason ban for 1 year due to "cheating" do you take that deal?