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Arrests coming due to college bball kickbacks

Discussion in 'Georgia Tech Basketball' started by msargent1, Sep 26, 2017.

  1. TheTechGuy

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    If they're doing this for basketball, we have to at least entertain the possibility that they are doing the same for football, if not more.
     
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  2. TheTechGuy

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    Haven't read the complaint, but I don't think "sports use" matters. Scholarships are public funds that the coaches knowingly misused while conspiring with apparel executives.
     
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  3. msargent1

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    Press Conference ...

     
  4. RamblinRed

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    Bingo, and the Justice Department does not bring indictments unless they consider it highly likely they are going to get a conviction.

    I suspect FBI will be looking to flip people and go farther up the chain at the shoe companies and college coaches.

    Given the allegations that there were bidding wars going on (no surprise to anyone who followed college basketball recruiting at all) this could get pretty ugly. Especially as someone else mentioned - this is not an NCAA issue, this is a Federal Government investigation.

    NCAA may use this information eventually to make players ineligible and possibly sanction coaches - if they can get the assts to flip.
    Looks like both L'ville and Miami have the potential to lose players.

    And no school wants to lose an asst coach during recruiting season - especially for this kind of reason.
     
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  5. Jean-Baptiste Rochambeau

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    Yes arrested. I am not a big NBA fan, but didn't Chuck Person play in the NBA for several years. Shouldn't he have $12 or $15 million dollars somewhere? Why on God's green earth would you risk a felony indictment and prison for $91,000.00?
     
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  6. Jean-Baptiste Rochambeau

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    It is possible, but basketball is where that one player can change the whole team.. In football it gets complicated trying to buy four or five elite players in a recruiting class.
     
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  7. RonJohn

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    The complaint says that it was fraud because the coaches and executives knew that the players were ineligible. What I was saying is that if the players in fact played and attended classes, then they were doing what they should to abide by the scholarship. If the coaches got things set up, and the players had to sit out, or not attend classes because of issues involving the payments, then the school would have suffered harm.

    In the Bowen case, it appears now that he probably won't play, so a case of fraud against Adidas and the Louisville coach could maybe be made.
     
  8. kg01

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    Heh, not really. He probably didn't make all that much money in the league.
     
  9. TheTechGuy

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    The issue isn't whether the school suffered harm due to players being declared ineligible to play while on campus. The issue is whether the coaches interfered with the universities ability to rightfully allocate sports scholarships (public funds) by intentionally signing players they knew to be ineligible.

    The last few sentences in count three touch on this.
     
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    He was never really a big star in the league and the salries in the NBA didn't really balloon up in the league until maybe the mid 1990's
     
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    I'm sure Nike is also involved. So the only clean company is probably Russell. LOL!
     
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    We were playing the long game the entire time!!!!
     
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    Nike is the company that basically started the "sneaker wars" in college athletics years ago.
     
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    During the announcement of the adidas deal, the adidas guy said they were only in about a dozen FBS schools and wanted to keep the total number down. What he probably said at the end of the sentence under his breath was 'because we can't afford all these dang kickbacks and under the table deals'.
     
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    Louisville is one of the "unnamed" teams, even if no coaches have been indicted there yet.

    I think Pitino is looking at big trouble here.
     
  18. bwelbo

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    Just think of all the squealing that is going to be going on everywhere to try and get lesser sentences. These guys will all squeal all the other guys out they were competing against in all these back room deals.
     
  19. RonJohn

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    I understand what you are saying, but I don't buy it. If a coach signs a player who isn't yet academically eligible are they guilty of fraud if the player never becomes eligible. If a coach signs a player who has eligibility issues, is he guilty of fraud if those issues can't be resolved?

    I think that the whole AAU and apparel system for basketball has been very seedy for a very long time. I would like to see it get cleaned up. Hopefully these events will clean it up. However, I don't see how it can be fraud if a player gets a scholarship, goes to class, and plays basketball. The school received everything that it wanted from the award of the scholarship.
     
  20. bwelbo

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    When you look at Pitino and Petrino, that school really is a complete wasteland of any sort of integrity whatsoever.
     

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